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  1. Subscriberkmax87
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    22 Apr '24 15:55
    @moonbus said
    Ich stimme zu.

    The correct thread title would have been 'is this MAGA's nadir?'

    To which the correct answer would have been, 'you ain't seen nuthin' yet!'
    Or the best is yet to come.
  2. Subscribermoonbus
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    23 Apr '24 06:59
    More frivolous litigation by Republican'ts, attempting to cast doubt on voting machines:


    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/22/politics/kari-lake-arizona-republican-supreme-court/index.html


    The SCOTUS dismissed the case without comment. Bravo. Let's look at real crime, not waste the court's time on unfounded conspiracy theories.
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    23 Apr '24 11:59
    @mott-the-hoople said
    what do you think should be done about the 17 officials that lied about Trump on Russia collusion?

    Or about Clinton creating the fake Russia dossier?

    Or the officials that lied about hunters laptop?
    They should be given medals just to piss you off.
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    23 Apr '24 17:56
    Former president Donald Trump is now on trial in a Manhattan courtroom, where facts are paramount, and a jury will assess the evidence and render a verdict. But as he enters and leaves that courtroom, Trump often stops before the cameras and blasts falsehoods to the court of public opinion, which can apply a different standard to Trump when it comes to facts. Here’s a quick assessment of several claims he made after the conclusion of the first day of testimony in his hush money trial, in the order in which he made them.

    “This is a case where you pay a lawyer, he’s a lawyer, and they call it a legal expense. That’s the exact term they use, legal expenses, in the books. And another thing that wasn’t even said was, we never even deducted it as a tax deduction.”

    Legal fees are often tax deductible. The fact that the Trump Organization did not take a tax deduction for the hush money payments is a possible red flag that these payments were handled improperly. Trump generally has taken as many tax deductions as possible. For instance, the Donald J. Trump Foundation — which Trump shut down after allegations he used it for his personal and political benefit — recorded a $7 foundation gift to the Boy Scouts. That matched the amount required to enroll a boy in the Scouts the year his son Donald Trump Jr. was 11.

    Michael “Cohen is a lawyer, represented a lot of people over the years. I’m not the only one, and he wasn’t very good in a lot of ways in terms of misrepresentation.”

    Trump now knocks his former attorney, Michael Cohen, who is expected to testify that he arranged the hush money payments at Trump’s behest, as not “very good.” That raises the question of why Cohen ended up working for Trump for 12 years, including 10 as vice president of the Trump Organization and then as Trump’s personal attorney after Trump was elected president.

    “He [Cohen] got in trouble for things that had nothing to do with me.”

    This is false. Cohen pleaded guilty to eight criminal charges, including two — “causing an unlawful corporate contribution” and “making an excessive campaign contribution” — that directly relate to the hush money case now being litigated in Manhattan criminal court. The charges laid out how “Individual-1” (Trump) began a presidential campaign in 2016 and how Cohen worked with the National Enquirer to squelch potentially damaging stories about alleged affairs with adult-film star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal. His payoffs were reimbursed by the Trump Organization.

    “Cohen caused and made the payments described herein in order to influence the 2016 presidential election,” the Justice Department said in a 2018 news release. “In so doing, he coordinated with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. As a result of the payments solicited and made by Cohen, neither Woman-1 nor Woman-2 spoke to the press prior to the election.”

    Notably, this case was prosecuted when Trump was president. Geoffrey Berman, at the time the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, revealed in 2022 that senior DOJ officials tried to remove all references to Trump. In the end, a compromise was made to water down the language, specifically to remove references to the idea that Trump acted “in concert with” and “coordinated with” Cohen to make illegal campaign contributions.

    “The other thing is: If this were such a great case, why didn’t the Southern District [of New York] bring it, who looked at it and turned it down?”

    In his memoir, “Holding the Line,” Berman says the case ended under pressure from Attorney General William P. Barr. The office, with Cohen’s cooperation in hand, began to investigate whether others should be charged in the hush money case. After Barr became attorney general in 2019, he ordered a review of the Cohen case, suggesting that the campaign finance charges be reversed — even though Cohen had pleaded guilty six months before. Specifically, he asked the Office of Legal Counsel to review whether there was a legal basis for the campaign finance changes. That froze any further investigation: “Not a single investigative step could be taken, not a single document in our possession could be reviewed until the issue was resolved,” Berman wrote, saying Barr’s intervention so long after a guilty plea was “highly unusual, if not unprecedented.” Barr eventually was convinced not to seek dismissal of the Cohen charges. But no additional charges were brought.

    “Very importantly, why didn’t the Federal Elections [Commission] do anything? Federal Elections took a total pass on it. They said essentially nothing was done wrong or they would have done something about it. They’re tough. … Actually, if you read their letter, they couldn’t even believe it. They were incredulous.”

    This is false. The Federal Election Commission staff, in a December 2020 report by the general counsel, said it had found “reason to believe” violations of campaign finance law were made “knowingly and willfully” by the Trump campaign. The report said that Cohen’s $130,000 payment to Daniels was far in excess of the legal limit for individual contributions of $2,700. “The available information indicates that Michael Cohen paid Stephanie Clifford [Daniels’s real name] $130,000 at the direction of 2016 presidential candidate Donald J. Trump, with Trump’s express promise of repayment, for the purpose of influencing the 2016 election,” the report said.
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    23 Apr '24 19:501 edit
    @Phranny

    Trump is a pathological liar. It is hardly surprising that he lies about his trials, too. The prosecution will have a field day if he takes the stand.
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    17 Apr '24 05:38
    @averagejoe1 said
    Here again, you libs are always looking over the fence at people you don’t like, for whatever reason, but………
    What have you got to do with them? I don’t like smelly Muslims, but I live my life ‘over here’. I don’t talk about them. And she is not only criticizing Trump, she criticizes his voters. She is so bitter.
    Here is a question…who seem to be the most bi ...[text shortened]... ilymail.co.uk/news/article-13314663/katie-couric-claims-trump-maga-support-anti-intellectualism.html
    Surely you are not suggesting the maga crowd are intellectual, are you?

    And stop booze-posting.
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    17 Apr '24 05:49
    It’s getting serious.
    Obviously I normally couldn’t care less about the Earth warming, the US coasts flooding and islands sinking… but I have just stumbled upon some really serious information.

    And I kid you not.
    Due to global warming, spiders are getting larger… and more bloody aggressive.

    Nope.
    No.
    This has got to stop.
    What sort of an apocalyptic nightmare are we stumbling into???

    I have one of those electro-tennis rackets for killing mosquitos. And I heard, seriously heard a spider walking on the floor. So I got my zapper and zapped it. It just kept walking… I ended up smashing it and the racket to pieces whilst screaming: “OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SOMEONE SAVE US!”

    Now, if these monsters are getting bigger…
    Nope. Just plain no.

    Throw out your aircos and buy a bloody bicycle!!!
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    17 Apr '24 06:41
    @averagejoe1 said
    All you fellers want us repubs to tell you his plans, and/or the reasons he does things? Am I getting that right?
    Would I tell you what Marjori Taylor Greene’s fight plan would be if she had to into the ring with AOC?.? No, because no one knows. And the mind of Trump is known by 8no one, which is why Putin, Kim and Xi fear him.
    So you’d vote for a blank cheque?
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    17 Apr '24 07:49
    @averagejoe1 said
    Here again, you libs are always looking over the fence at people you don’t like, for whatever reason, but………
    What have you got to do with them? I don’t like smelly Muslims, but I live my life ‘over here’. I don’t talk about them. And she is not only criticizing Trump, she criticizes his voters. She is so bitter.
    Here is a question…who seem to be the most bi ...[text shortened]... ilymail.co.uk/news/article-13314663/katie-couric-claims-trump-maga-support-anti-intellectualism.html
    Yeah that’s right Joe we are always posting angry rant after angry rant whilst the last of the ‘Wild Turkey’ dribbles down our chin onto our bib and brace
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    17 Apr '24 08:09
    @averagejoe1 said
    Why such a negative approach? One starts 'somewhere', and makes each day count...success will blossom at the end. I see no downside as long as proper choices are made along the way. Paychecks get bigger. And, there is no 'piece of the pie'. One makes his own pie.
    Cheers Pollyanna 👍
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    17 Apr '24 09:45
    @drewnogal said
    I’m lucky in that I’ve always enjoyed some sort of sports activity like horse riding, running, cycling, squash, badminton, and swimming. I now walk my dog miles each week, garden and do resistance training at home. I’m of the view that you use it or lose it and it has also kept my weight and blood pressure low.
    Well that is the right attitude to handle the senior years. Some brain activity is also critical to ward off dementia, Parkinson's and other brain disorders. There is new research suggesting that the brain does not need to deteriorate with age like the body does. Its interesting.
  12. Subscriberkevcvs57
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    17 Apr '24 09:56
    @averagejoe1 said
    So, you too? Don't understand the logic, common sense, rationale and the law with regard to the Roe decision?. What else could their findings have been? You are aware, I am sure, that their total deliberatoins are based solely on the provisions of the Constitution. Why, you seem to disagree with Constitutional law??
    Your constitution is chimera Joe, no one ever comes to the same conclusion based on the text, they only agree with each other based their own political philosophies.
    Do you find it suspicious at all that a right wing conservative dominated SCOTUS manages to interpret the constitution in such a way that it favours right wing conservative values and a left wing liberal dominated SCOTUS can interpret it in favour of left wing liberal values
    I would argue that a liberal interpretation is more in keeping with the over riding principal of individual freedoms but then I’m obviously a left wing liberal 🤷🏻‍♂️
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    17 Apr '24 12:56
    @mott-the-hoople said
    what do you get out of posting entire articles from far left propaganda web sites?

    Can you not think and speak for yourself?

    Meanwhile deomocrats are actually jailing their political opponents…fuking idiot!
    Lying just like your criminal boss.

    Well done!
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    17 Apr '24 15:48
    @sleepyguy said
    Well, because it is mind poison?

    A sense of self worth should be instilled by parents, not some "educator" teaching kids to hate society. Do you have a job? Maybe you are an entrepreneur? Do you take pride in the work you do for a living?
    No you telling them that the system is equitable and if they fail they’ve only themselves to blame is the mind poison.
    I realise telling kids the truth is an anathema to right ing types sine the MAGA crowd took over the GOP but there is no excuse for lying
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    17 Apr '24 17:36
    @averagejoe1 said
    Probably any comparison, such as yours here, about interest in attending rallies and supporting Trump, are negatively impacted by the state of Biden economy, illegal immigrants, huge plundering of the treasury, watching Biden dictate to spend about 25,000 per person on tuition loans, when we all stand around with our mouth open, getting nothing. ….such as that. We are all ...[text shortened]... elections/2020/07/13/fact-check-did-trump-tell-people-to-drink-bleach-to-kill-coronavirus/113754708/
    We are all suffering, there is not a lot of room for a free time to show support

    That's right Joe - Just keep telling yourself that. 😏
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