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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/science/camels-had-no-business-in-genesis.html?smid=fb-share
Originally posted by woodypusherQuote from the link: "...the Bible was written or edited long after the events it narrates and is not always reliable as verifiable history."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/11/science/camels-had-no-business-in-genesis.html?smid=fb-share
Originally posted by EladarI think "Science anti-dangerously-delusional-religion forum" would be more precise. I believe I speak for most but not necessarily all scientists here when I say we are against ALL the religions, especially the most delusional kinds, not just the Christian kind or creationist kind although the creationist kind is clearly one of the worst kinds.
They should probably rename this forum the "Science anti-Christian forum" for the stuff the threads they allow to continue and posters who are allowed to continue unchecked.
Not that I'm complaining, just pointing out the obvious.
Originally posted by humyWhy do you need to exchange the word Christian with the words dangerously-delusional-religion? Why not simply put a comma? You know:
I think "Science anti-dangerously-delusional-religion forum" would be more precise. I believe I speak for most but not necessarily all scientists here when I say we are against ALL the religions, especially the most delusional kinds, not just the Christian kind or creationist kind although the creationist kind is clearly one of the worst kinds.
We only have ...[text shortened]... s wouldn't evolve tail feathers.
If it sounds that I am complaining here, it is because I am.
Originally posted by EladarYou don't address the topic of the thread. Does that mean that even you are aware that there are numerous lies in the bible? That the bible is a fabricated of people with an agenda?
They should probably rename this forum the "Science anti-Christian forum" for the stuff the threads they allow to continue and posters who are allowed to continue unchecked.
Not that I'm complaining, just pointing out the obvious.
Originally posted by EladarBecause it clearly isn't only the Christian religion that can be dangerous ( think of 9/11 ) and, in this modern age of science and reason, at least for the reasonably educated that have no excuse for such extreme ignorance, ALL religion, not just the Christian kind in particular, is delusional. The only reason why you don't see much criticism of other religions in this science forum is simply because it does seem that the vast majority of posts from theists that come to the science forum are pro-Christian ones and not because we scientists are necessarily generally more against the Christian religion than other religions. I for one am about roughly equally against all the types of religion although I think the creationist kinds, whether of the Cristian kinds or not, are surely more delusional than most and, therefore, probably more dangerous.
Why do you need to exchange the word Christian with the words dangerously-delusional-religion? Why not simply put a comma? You know:
"Science anti-Christianity-a-dangerously-delusional-religion forum"
Originally posted by humyBecause it clearly isn't only the Christian religion that can be dangerous ( think of 9/11 )
and, in this modern age of science and reason, at least for the reasonably educated that have no excuse for such extreme ignorance, ALL religion, not just the Christian kind in particular, is delusional. The only reason why you don't see much criticism of other religions in this science forum is simply because it does seem that the vast majority of posts from t ...[text shortened]... tian kinds or not, are surely more delusional than most and, therefore, probably more dangerous.
Originally posted by EladarHumy: "Because it clearly isn't only the Christian religion that can be dangerous ( think of 9/11 )"
[b]Because it clearly isn't only the Christian religion that can be dangerous ( think of 9/11 )
Classic! You are the perfect example of why humanistic extremists are dangerous and delusional. Look in the mirror before you try to put others down.
Putting that aside, this forum seems to only go after Christians so I think the title of the forum sho ...[text shortened]... ompeting religions (like Christianity competes with your religion) those should be included too.[/b]
Originally posted by EladarLike FabianFnas, I don't understand your post.
[b]Because it clearly isn't only the Christian religion that can be dangerous ( think of 9/11 )
Classic! You are the perfect example of why humanistic extremists are dangerous and delusional. Look in the mirror before you try to put others down.
Putting that aside, this forum seems to only go after Christians so I think the title of the forum sho ...[text shortened]... ompeting religions (like Christianity competes with your religion) those should be included too.[/b]
... humanistic extremists are dangerous and delusional ...
...with your religion
Originally posted by humyReligious fanatics have totally wacked out beliefs, which do not allow them to see their beliefs and themselves as what they are. Some wacked out fanatics (like yourself) believe that their religious beliefs are simply facts therefore believe that they do not have religious beliefs.
Like FabianFnas, I don't understand your post.
... humanistic extremists are dangerous and delusional ...
That doesn't make any sense for two reasons:
firstly, what are “humanistic extremists”? I mean, that is like saying “moderate extremists”.
Second, how can a humanist be “dangerous and delusional” because he is a humanis ...[text shortened]... and thus probably rejects religion?
...with your religion
I have none.
Originally posted by Eladar
Religious fanatics have totally wacked out beliefs, which do not allow them to see their beliefs and themselves as what they are. Some wacked out fanatics (like yourself) believe that their religious beliefs are simply facts therefore believe that they do not have religious beliefs.
Some wacked out fanatics (like yourself) believe that their religious beliefs are simply facts
Originally posted by humyWe've gone over this several times already. You have no intention of actually looking at your beliefs. You have demonstrated that you are incapable of seeing your beliefs as nothing but absolute truth.Some wacked out fanatics (like yourself) believe that their religious beliefs are simply facts
There is just so much wrong with that! :-
I am a “fanatic” of what exactly?
I do not have “religious beliefs” -if you refute this, I challenge you to state what they are!
And I do not believe that ANY “religious beliefs are simply facts”.
...[text shortened]... lieve. Please be SPECIFIC; don't just say "religious beliefs” without saying EXACTLY which ones.
Originally posted by Eladar
We've gone over this several times already. You have no intention of actually looking at your beliefs. You have demonstrated that you are incapable of seeing your beliefs as nothing but absolute truth.
But hey, I'll play along:
You believe that evolution is true and that a supernatural power did not create the Universe.
You believe that evolution is true and that a supernatural power did not create the Universe.
Originally posted by humyYou are saying that you base your religion on Occam's razor. OK.You believe that evolution is true and that a supernatural power did not create the Universe.
Correct. There is empirical proof for evolution and there is Occam’s razor that implies amongst other things that, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, a goddidit belief is irrational because you would have to first assume a superfluous god. ...[text shortened]... !! Either way, I base my beliefs on evidence and logic and not faith nor what I want to be true.