Pain

To what degree does pain effect us in a positive way spiritually/developmentally if at all?

From what I've seen and experienced, my greatest advances spiritually have come due to various thorns in the flesh, as Paul would call them.

What a nice god to make pain the best way of experiencing spirituality. Love that guy!

Originally posted by whodey
To what degree does pain effect us in a positive way spiritually/developmentally if at all?

Pain is evolutions way of telling you not to do something. It is very effective. Just look at examples of people who cannot feel pain for various reasons and you will see.
One such condition:
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/congenital-insensitivity-to-pain

Also I believe leprosy has this as a side effect.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Pain is evolutions way of telling you not to do something. It is very effective. Just look at examples of people who cannot feel pain for various reasons and you will see.
One such condition:
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/congenital-insensitivity-to-pain

Also I believe leprosy has this as a side effect.

Evolution can't do anything. Evolution does not have a mind. Evolution can't see, hear, speak, feel, work, design, make, or create anything. Evolution is just a made up word that atheists use to represent change or anything they don't really understand and do not want to attribute to God.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Evolution can't do anything. Evolution does not have a mind. Evolution can't see, hear, speak, feel, work, design, make, or create anything. Evolution is just a made up word that atheists use to represent change or anything they don't really understand and do not want to attribute to God.

I hit a sore spot I see.

Thats evolutions way of telling you that your beliefs are being threatened.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Evolution is just a made up word ....

Know any words that aren't made up? 🙄

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Know any words that aren't made up? 🙄

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Originally posted by twhitehead
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I knew I was setting myself up for that! 😀😀

... but what was the word? - YWH or whatever? 🙂

Originally posted by whodey
To what degree does pain effect us in a positive way spiritually/developmentally if at all?

From what I've seen and experienced, my greatest advances spiritually have come due to various thorns in the flesh, as Paul would call them.

If mistakes caused the pain, the pain is what makes us remember not to make the mistakes again.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
I knew I was setting myself up for that! 😀😀

... but what was the word? - YWH or whatever? 🙂

Sorry, but its too holy to write down.

Suzainne, you were right!! 😛

Adieu!!

Originally posted by whodey
Suzainne, you were right!! 😛

Adieu!!

Aaaaand... another one bites the dust!

Originally posted by whodey
To what degree does pain effect us in a positive way spiritually/developmentally if at all?

From what I've seen and experienced, my greatest advances spiritually have come due to various thorns in the flesh, as Paul would call them.

Spiritually speaking, we can grow and learn from pain, but pain of itself is not from God.
I know many Christians believe God sends us calamity, sickness, etc., but it is not biblical.
John 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
I know many Christians believe God sends us calamity, sickness, etc., but it is not biblical.

That depends on which verses you cherry pick.

Originally posted by twhitehead
That depends on which verses you cherry pick.

Yes you are right, but that is a poor understanding of the difference between the old and new covenants, and why there is such a discrepancy.