1. Standard memberRBHILL
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    04 Mar '14 01:59
    I forget who it was who posted and said that when they play a lower player they play to win but when they play a higher player they play to draw that should still be to play to win right and play For a draw that's ridiculous. Why play at all. You're supposed to play to win not draw.
  2. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Mar '14 03:23
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    You're supposed to play to win not draw.
    Supposed to?
    Is that in the Rules of Chess or the site Terms of Agreement?
  3. Standard memberRBHILL
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    04 Mar '14 04:281 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Supposed to?
    Is that in the Rules of Chess or the site Terms of Agreement?
    But that's just stupid to want to play for a draw, let's just play 50 moves from the start knowing that I'm going to draw, yeah a how exciting. 🙄
  4. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Mar '14 04:49
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    But that's just stupid to want to play for a draw, let's just play 50 moves from the start knowing that I'm going to draw, yeah a how exciting. 🙄
    Your argument is very persuasive .... (but where is it?)
  5. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    04 Mar '14 05:19
    I'm with RB on this one. I prefer to play for the win, no matter what the opponent's rating is. The only time I play for a draw is to escape a loss, or if I think (usually in the endgame) that trying to win is too risky.
  6. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    04 Mar '14 05:33
    I agree, but I have found often when a balance is achieved, attempting to push can lead to disaster. But it is certainly more fun to win or lose, unless you pull off a swindle etc.
  7. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Mar '14 05:53
    I never set out to play for a draw.
    However against a higher-ranked opponent I will play more solid drawish lines hoping that my opponent (who is more desperate for a win than I) will over-reach himself.

    There are those who definitely set out for a draw - but I have no problem with that.
  8. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Mar '14 05:55
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    I'm with RB on this one. I prefer to play for the win, no matter what the opponent's rating is. The only time I play for a draw is to escape a loss, or if I think (usually in the endgame) that trying to win is too risky.
    SG
    RB is not just saying what he does, he is trying to dictate what others should do.

    I'm sure you would agree that playing for a draw (while not your style) is an acceptable strategy.
  9. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    04 Mar '14 06:00
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
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    RB is not just saying what he does, he is trying to dictate what others should do.

    I'm sure you would agree that playing for a draw (while not your style) is an acceptable strategy.
    "Should" is not dictating anything. I think you're overreacting a bit.
  10. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    04 Mar '14 06:08
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    "Should" is not dictating anything. I think you're overreacting a bit.
    You should keep quiet unless you agree with me!
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    "The right standpont is to play for pleasure - and do not think that
    pleasure is proportionate to skill. The greatest bunglers are constantly
    deriving the greatest pleasure from Chess - they go into ecstasies of
    delight when their Knight forks a King and Queen.

    I have always a slight feeling of pity for the man who has no knowledge of Chess,
    just as I pity the man who has remained ignorant of love.

    Chess, like love, like music, has the power to make men happy. The way
    to this happiness I have tried to show in this book."

    From 'The Game of Chess' by Siegbert Tarrasch. 1862 - 1934.
  12. Standard memberRBHILL
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    04 Mar '14 20:24
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    I agree, but I have found often when a balance is achieved, attempting to push can lead to disaster. But it is certainly more fun to win or lose, unless you pull off a swindle etc.
    My chess instructor who's 2400+ says the play aggressively even if it might lead to a loss. So I wouldn't play passively, Although I do a lot 🙄
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    depends on the level of play over 2500 certain openings queens gambit has a high rate of a draw. So if this is what you need to win a tournament is a draw. You might pick a opening with high drawing chances. Getting a draw against someone takes a lot of skill to shut someone down at ever turn. it pretty improbably for me to do against such a player. But when a couple of masters go at it. Every turn a trap and shut down they throw out a trap and get shut down. Getting a draw is very respectable.
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