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draw being refused 
 draw being refused
lord deepwater
Location : In a hole looking up
Joined : 08 Apr '03
Moves : 111974
Really frustrated,playing a game that myself and opponent are left with a rook and king each ,I have offered a draw several times but opponent refuses to accept.
What are my options do we just keep moving around the board forever?
  
Location : Göteborg
Joined : 11 Nov '05
Moves : 40269
Originally posted by boiledcod
Really frustrated,playing a game that myself and opponent are left with a rook and king each ,I have offered a draw several times but opponent refuses to accept.
What are my options do we just keep moving around the board forever?


Not forever. 50 moves is enough. Or find three same positions, not neccessary in sequence. Then you can claim a draw. All according ot the rules of RHP (and not FIDE).
  
Location : ALG
Joined : 16 Dec '07
Moves : 5369
Do a lot of conditional moves when you have time.
  
Joined : 03 Apr '06
Moves : 44116
You must be talking about Game 7450764.

The game should indeed be drawn, but either side could win if the other made a blunder. Your opponent is simply waiting and hoping you make a mistake. As it is, there isn't really anything you can do but play it out until 50 consecutive moves have been made without a capture or a pawn move. At that time, you will be able to claim a draw. You could also attempt to reason with your opponent and tell him that you aren't likely to blunder.

No doubt someone will come and start flaming for explaining the rule, so bring it on....
  
Joined : 25 Jul '07
Moves : 10754
Actually, I do have a question this. Do we hit 'Claim Draw' on the 100th half-move, the 101st, or the 102nd?

"No piece capture or pawn movement has occurred for over 50 consecutive moves (100 half moves). Therefore the game has not progressed and a draw may be claimed by either player during their next move."

From the above, I'm guessing it's *after* 100 half-moves, meaning the draw is claimed on the 101st move. Is that right?
  
Carpe per diem
Location : Clermont, Florida
Joined : 21 Aug '09
Moves : 32000
Originally posted by aquatabby
Actually, I do have a question this. Do we hit 'Claim Draw' on the 100th half-move, the 101st, or the 102nd?

"No piece capture or pawn movement has occurred for over 50 consecutive moves (100 half moves). Therefore the game has not progressed and a draw may be claimed by either player during their next move."

From the above, I'm guessing it's *after* 100 half-moves, meaning the draw is claimed on the 101st move. Is that right?


You can hit the "claim draw" tab any time- if the position is not actually a draw, the system will ignore it.

The cool thing is that if you are not sure the position has repeated 3 times, you can just select the "claim draw" feature, and either it is and you draw, or it isn't and no one is the wiser.
  
Joined : 23 Apr '10
Moves : 679
You think that's frustrating? Have your opponent go on an indefinite vacation after you've snatched his queen!
  
Joined : 03 Apr '06
Moves : 44116
Originally posted by Thabtos
You think that's frustrating? Have your opponent go on an indefinite vacation after you've snatched his queen!


http://tinyurl.com/5gby3w
  
Joined : 23 Apr '10
Moves : 679
Originally posted by clandarkfire
http://tinyurl.com/5gby3w


I've always been taught that the polite thing to do is resign when faced with insurmountable odds.

Game 7589445
  
Joined : 03 Apr '06
Moves : 44116
Originally posted by Thabtos
I've always been taught that the polite thing to do is resign when faced with insurmountable odds.

Game 7589445


I too wish that my opponents would resign when they were down a queen with no compensation, but the sad truth is that you can't do anything about it. If he were flying his flag just to avoid losing in your game, I could certainly understand, but it seems he is actually on vacation. You could always consider becoming a subscriber and then it wouldn't be an issue

What does my game have to do with this?
  
Joined : 23 Apr '10
Moves : 679
Originally posted by clandarkfire
I too wish that my opponents would resign when they were down a queen with no compensation, but the sad truth is that you can't do anything about it. If he were flying his flag just to avoid losing in your game, I could certainly understand, but it seems he is actually on vacation. You could always consider becoming a subscriber and then it wouldn't be an issue

What does my game have to do with this?


As soon as this month's bills are paid I think I will subscribe.


I don't understand the no move resignations I see in some tournaments. Is it some kind of strategy, or do the moves just not get recorded? I would love it if someone rated 400 points ahead of me resigned at move 0.
  
Location : Göteborg
Joined : 11 Nov '05
Moves : 40269
Originally posted by Thabtos
I would love it if someone rated 400 points ahead of me resigned at move 0.


Why? You will not recieve any rating points. Your win/loss stats will give change though. And you will get 3 gamepoints in your group. That's all.
  
Joined : 23 Apr '10
Moves : 679
Originally posted by FabianFnas
Why? You will not recieve any rating points. Your win/loss stats will give change though. And you will get 3 gamepoints in your group. That's all.


Ah, I see. Still, I imagine it makes one feel good.
  
Joined : 03 Apr '06
Moves : 44116
Originally posted by Thabtos
As soon as this month's bills are paid I think I will subscribe.


I don't understand the no move resignations I see in some tournaments. Is it some kind of strategy, or do the moves just not get recorded? I would love it if someone rated 400 points ahead of me resigned at move 0.


Subscribers who resign on without making any moves automatically progress to the next round. It doesn't work in the final, but it's an easy way to get there
  
Location : Midwest USA
Joined : 03 Jul '10
Moves : 0
Rules are rules, made and SET by the powers that be. If the RULES say one can take a vacation during a game; then when YOU whine about it, you are demonstrating it is YOU who are anti-rules. That does NOT sit well with me.

If the rules say that I can PLAY on when it is King and Rook vs. King and Rook, then I dang well WILL. Why are you all SO AGAINST the rules. If it's one thing I hate, it's the anti-rules group.

It's always that SELF-centered bunch of people who have this superiority COMPLEX coupled with a need for contol who strive to manipulate situations in their favor and against everyone else's interests.

You are RUINING the great game of chess.... And I have a PROBLEM with THAT!!!