Robin Williams had Parkinsons

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15 Aug '14 02:55
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/wife-robin-williams-had-parkinsons-disease-his-94744481702.html

Apparently, Robin Williams had recently been diagnosed with Parkinsons.

Was this the reason he killed himself? If so, should he be given the right to kill himself? For those who are in favor of euthanasia, should Robin have been able to check into a medical facility and terminate his life without any fear of "pain"?
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15 Aug '14 03:55
Originally posted by whodey
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/wife-robin-williams-had-parkinsons-disease-his-94744481702.html

Apparently, Robin Williams had recently been diagnosed with Parkinsons.

Was this the reason he killed himself? If so, should he be given the right to kill himself? For those who are in favor of euthanasia, should Robin have been able to check into a medical facility and terminate his life without any fear of "pain"?
Yes
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15 Aug '14 03:56
Originally posted by caissad4
Yes
So if Robin asked you to press a button to end his life, for whatever reason, you would hit the button?
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15 Aug '14 04:57
Originally posted by whodey
If so, should he be given the right to kill himself?
What could be reasons to deny that right?
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15 Aug '14 05:03
Originally posted by whodey
[b If so, should he be given the right to kill himself? [/b]
No one can give him that right, he had it. As we all do.
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15 Aug '14 08:01
Originally posted by whodey
So if Robin asked you to press a button to end his life, for whatever reason, you would hit the button?
for whatever reason,
That insert destroys any value in your loaded question while insulting the intelligence of the person you wished to answer.
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15 Aug '14 08:27
Originally posted by whodey
So if Robin asked you to press a button to end his life, for whatever reason, you would hit the button?
He doesn't need to ask you, or anyone else, to push the button.
He can do it himself.
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15 Aug '14 08:341 edit
Originally posted by whodey
So if Robin asked you to press a button to end his life, for whatever reason, you would hit the button?
I see the whodey's question and point....so if one is afflicted or faces a hardship that gives them an excuse to hit the button. Also more and more former NFL players have been diagnosed with early onset of parkinsons and they have hit the button. So maybe we shouldn't get overzealous.
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15 Aug '14 08:401 edit
Yes, I think that right should be given.
but....if he had 'Early" parkinsons' does the family have any say in the matter?
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15 Aug '14 08:46
I can't even edit so I'm hitting the button on gort on the thread.
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15 Aug '14 10:54
Originally posted by finnegan
for whatever reason,
That insert destroys any value in your loaded question while insulting the intelligence of the person you wished to answer.
Why?

From discussing the issue with many who favor euthanasia, the thinking is that people should be allowed to die with "dignity" when facing hardship physically. Usually this involves someone in a great deal of physical pain.

However, what about emotional pain? Robin did not seem to be suffering physically, other than the beginning onset of Parkinsons. Should this physical problem allow us to help him kill himself?

Then there is emotional pain. I've seen Robin give public messages about suicide saying that you should not choose it because it is a permanent problem to what is usually a temporary problem. But do the emotional problems ever go away entirely?

In short, when do we try to stop people from killing themselves in order to try and fix their mental state, and when do we just say screw it, and help them kill themselves?
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15 Aug '14 10:561 edit
Originally posted by gort
I see the whodey's question and point....so if one is afflicted or faces a hardship that gives them an excuse to hit the button. Also more and more former NFL players have been diagnosed with early onset of parkinsons and they have hit the button. So maybe we shouldn't get overzealous.
Exactly.

Life is full of hardship and pain. Therefore, do we want to create a society that offers an "easy way out" or a society that tries to encourage people to work through them?

If I had been there, I would have punched Robin between the eyes and knocked him out if I had to before allowing him to kill himself, so as to try and get him the help he needs.

However, I think many here might have put the noose around his neck to help him hang himself.
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15 Aug '14 13:251 edit
Originally posted by whodey
If I had been there, I would have punched Robin between the eyes and knocked him out if I had to before allowing him to kill himself, so as to try and get him the help he needs
See here Whodey's idea of "Freedom".

Marvelous.
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15 Aug '14 14:10
Originally posted by Great King Rat
See here Whodey's idea of "Freedom".

Marvelous.
Would you try to physically stop your child (assuming he or she has reached adulthood) from committing suicide?

What about a friend?

What about a co-worker?

And since this is hypothetical, let's assume they were "depressed", not dying in agony from cancer.
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15 Aug '14 14:55
Originally posted by techsouth
Would you try to physically stop your child (assuming he or she has reached adulthood) from committing suicide?

What about a friend?

What about a co-worker?

And since this is hypothetical, let's assume they were "depressed", not dying in agony from cancer.
Yes, I would attempt to stop somebody from committing suicide.

I just find it ironic that Whodey - always so concerned with Freedom being taken away and Personal Responsibility disappearing as the Nanny State takes over your, mine and everybody's life* - is so easy to ditch all of that when somebody decides to steer that Freedom in a direction that Whodey doesn't like.

Does Whodey feel for instance that an individual should be forced to take medication against some terrible disease, even if he/she doesn't want to?

What about somebody in the ER carrying a DNR?

* I'm positive Whodey could phrase this in a more poetic, hyperbolic way.

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