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    "Putin denies invading Ukraine, warns West 'not to mess with us'

    "Russian President Vladimir Putin denied Friday that the Kremlin had sent troops and tanks into eastern Ukraine and countered threats of increased Western sanctions with the advice that it is "best not to mess with us.".

    Putin likened the 5-month-old battle between pro-Russia separatists and Ukrainian government forces in eastern Ukraine to the World War II siege of Leningrad by invading Nazi troops. He also reminded the outside world that has condemned his incursions into Ukraine that Russia is "one of the leading nuclear powers."

    But his defiant pose during a visit to a Kremlin-sponsored youth camp near Moscow, which was broadcast on state-run television, coincided with a proposed "humanitarian" appeal to the pro-Russia separatists to allow Ukrainian troops encircled in the Donetsk region to evacuate to government-held territory to the west..."

    "NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen acknowledged Ukraine's right to seek membership in the Western military alliance without expressing support or opposition to a Ukrainian bid - a move Putin would clearly regard as a threat to his authority in the former Soviet region. But the NATO chief condemned Russia's armored incursion into Ukrainian territory, satellite images of which the alliance released on Thursday..."

    “This is a blatant violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. It defies all diplomatic efforts for a peaceful solution,” Rasmussen said.

    "Despite Moscow’s hollow denials, it is now clear that Russian troops and equipment have illegally crossed the border into eastern and southeastern Ukraine," Rasmussen said. "This is not an isolated action, but part of a dangerous pattern over many months to destabilize Ukraine as a sovereign nation..."

    "Putin denied that Russia was involved in the fighting in eastern Ukraine that has taken 2,600 lives since April, calling Ukrainians and Russians "one people..."

    "His visit to the youth camp came a day after Russian tanks and troops thundered into eastern Ukraine along the Sea of Azov, opening a new front for the embattled separatists who were on the verge of losing their last two strongholds in Donetsk and Luhansk to resurgent Ukrainian government forces.

    In what sounded like a warning to the West against imposing further sanctions on Russia, Putin reminded the outside world that Russia is nuclear-armed and ready to defend itself.

    "Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers," he said.

    Alluding to Western countries, Putin added that "Russia's partners ... should understand it's best not to mess with us."

    Follow @cjwilliamslat for the latest international news 24/7 Special correspondent Gorst reported from Moscow and Times staff writer Williams from Los Angeles. Copyright © 2014, Los Angeles Times http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-russia-captives-20140829-story.html

    Only One Question: Is the President of the United States of America, Barrack Obama, an insightful leader upholding its constitution or an unpatriotic, cowardly community organizer bent on the gradual destruction of this once proud republic?
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    30 Aug '14 02:09
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]"Putin denies invading Ukraine, warns West 'not to mess with us'

    "Russian President Vladimir Putin denied Friday that the Kremlin had sent troops and tanks into eastern Ukraine and countered threats of increased Western sanctions with the advice that it is "best not to mess with us.".

    Putin likened the 5-month-old battle betwe ...[text shortened]... iotic, cowardly community organizer bent on the gradual destruction of this once proud republic?[/b]
    Obama is an obstructionist. He is all the time trying to prevent Putin from restoring order in Russia.

    What is worse is that wears a tin foiled hat insisting that Russia is actively invading the Ukraine.

    What a goof ball. 🙄
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    30 Aug '14 03:19
    Originally posted by whodey
    Obama is an obstructionist. He is all the time trying to prevent Putin from restoring order in Russia.

    What is worse is that wears a tin foiled hat insisting that Russia is actively invading the Ukraine.

    What a goof ball. 🙄
    I will be glad when Obama is gone, because he is getting blamed for just too much. Even jokes about him are not funny to me. We need another president that when he does make a mistake it will seem unusual and a joke here and there about it will actually be funny again.
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    30 Aug '14 03:22
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I will be glad when Obama is gone, because he is getting blamed for just too much. Even jokes about him are not funny to me. We need another president that when he does make a mistake it will seem unusual and a joke here and there about it will actually be funny again.
    This just in, Obama has held a news conference in order to tell the world that he has no plan for anything. 😲
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    30 Aug '14 06:13
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby

    [b]Only One Question:
    Is the President of the United States of America, Barrack Obama, an insightful leader upholding its constitution or an unpatriotic, cowardly community organizer bent on the gradual destruction of this once proud republic?[/b]
    Well, that's a very easy question. None of the above.
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    30 Aug '14 15:28
    Originally posted by whodey
    Obama is an obstructionist. He is all the time trying to prevent Putin from restoring order in Russia.

    What is worse is that wears a tin foiled hat insisting that Russia is actively invading the Ukraine.

    What a goof ball. 🙄
    At least now we know the actual topic being discussed when Obama told the Russian that Putin had to wait until Obama was re-elected.
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    31 Aug '14 05:51
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, that's a very easy question. None of the above.
    How about a hint?
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    31 Aug '14 06:191 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    At least now we know the actual topic being discussed when Obama told the Russian that Putin had to wait until Obama was re-elected.
    Obama Promises Putin Flexibility After Election

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    Romney: Obama stopped missile defense shield 'as a gift to Russia'

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/23/mitt-romney/romney-obama-stopped-missile-defense-shield-gift-r/
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    04 Sep '14 07:14
    Originally posted by whodey
    This just in, Obama has held a news conference in order to tell the world that he has no plan for anything. 😲
    Originally posted by whodey
    This just in, Obama has held a news conference in order to tell the world that he has no plan for anything. (italics mine)

    Hardly the reality of his actions and inactions to date. Probably more than any other president in recent memory his socialist ideological blueprint for this country's future was engraved on the tissue of his frontal lobes since Columbia and Harvard.
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    04 Sep '14 13:51
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Originally posted by whodey
    This just in, Obama has held a news conference in order to tell the world that he has no plan for anything. (italics mine)

    Hardly the reality of his actions and inactions to date. Probably more than any other president in recent memory his socialist ideological blueprint for this country's future was engraved on the tissue of his frontal lobes since Columbia and Harvard.
    What would you say is particularly "socialist" about his "actions and inactions"?
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    05 Sep '14 22:36
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    What would you say is particularly "socialist" about his "actions and inactions"?
    Ignoring free enterprise principles in favor of the socialist principle that the means of production, distribution and exchange are in common ownership: evidenced by six years of legislation and executive orders promoting income re-distribution.
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    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Ignoring free enterprise principles in favor of the socialist principle that the means of production, distribution and exchange are in common ownership: evidenced by six years of legislation and executive orders promoting income re-distribution.
    kill em all
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    Originally posted by whodey
    This just in, Obama has held a news conference in order to tell the world that he has no plan for anything. 😲
    News Flash! Obama has just stepped back in line to wait for his sandwich!




    GRANNY.
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    06 Sep '14 20:15
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Ignoring free enterprise principles in favor of the socialist principle that the means of production, distribution and exchange are in common ownership: evidenced by six years of legislation and executive orders promoting income re-distribution.
    Can you cite some examples of this legislation? Which "free enterprise principles" were "ignored", specifically? Income inequality has not changed significantly during the Obama administration, and in any case is not related to "common ownership."
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