Please turn on javascript in your browser to play chess.
Help Forum

Help Forum

  1. 12 Nov '07 06:33
    hey, new on the site, it's perfect in (nearly) every way, always hated quick time limit online chess like on yahoo. and mobile access is great. wondering though is it possible to chose your preferred notation style, which is standard algebraic for me?

    georgie
  2. 12 Nov '07 09:22
    isn't that what we use here?
  3. 12 Nov '07 10:32
    well i don't see it anyway. algebraic just names where the piece is going and is pretty standard.
    1. e4 e5
    2. Nf3 Nc6
    3. Bb5 a6
  4. 12 Nov '07 10:34
    ok, just noticed the amount of moves you have, :-). it's obvious you know algebraic. i dont see it anyway, must be some setting that i can't find
  5. 12 Nov '07 11:22
    If you bring up a game display and then in the light blue bar, Left-Click on "Game History", a panel with the moves played in the game so far will appear. RHP uses full algebraic in this record, giving both the square moved from and the one moved to. What you give in your example is actually abbreviated algebraic, (only the square moved to unless there is the possibility of confusion, when some distinguishing character must be included).
  6. 12 Nov '07 12:02
    Originally posted by georgiecasey
    ok, just noticed the amount of moves you have, :-). it's obvious you know algebraic.
    Actually I'm trying to learn algebraic and not doing well at it, I'm the generation brought up on Forsyth notation and it's a bigger change than just going metric! I thought the letters and numbers shown on the board and in the Game History were algebraic, that's why I asked.
  7. Standard member irontigran
    Rob Scheider is..
    13 Nov '07 20:43
    Originally posted by MissOleum
    \ I thought the letters and numbers shown on the board and in the Game History were algebraic, that's why I asked.
    i think theyre long algebraic, i would also prefer normal algebraic...
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    iSoy un Californio!
    13 Nov '07 22:41
    Originally posted by MissOleum
    Actually I'm trying to learn algebraic and not doing well at it, I'm the generation brought up on Forsyth notation and it's a bigger change than just going metric! I thought the letters and numbers shown on the board and in the Game History were algebraic, that's why I asked.
    Forsyth must be 1. P-K4 P-QB4 kind of thing right?
  9. 14 Nov '07 05:02
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Forsyth must be 1. P-K4 P-QB4 kind of thing right?
    Yup. (I'm just taking longer to change over than most)
  10. 14 Nov '07 16:43
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Forsyth must be 1. P-K4 P-QB4 kind of thing right?
    No . This is 'Descriptive Notation'.
    'Forsyth Notation' is the method used to record an actual position.
    It reads off the board square by square like the lines on a page of print, from a8 to h8, then a7 to h7 etc, until h1 is reached. Use capital letters to denote White's men, lower case letters for Black's, and figures for empty squares. See : -
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forsyth-Edwards_Notation
    for a fuller description.
  11. Donation mwmiller
    RHP Member No. 16
    14 Nov '07 17:10 / 2 edits
    I did a google search for "chess notation defined" and found one site that gave this example of notation styles for the same sequence of moves.


    Full Algebraic

    1.d2-d4 Ng8-f6
    2.c2-c4 e7-e5
    3.d4xe5 Nf6-g4
    4.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6
    5.Bc1-f4 Bf6-b4+
    6.Nb1-d2 Qd8-e7
    7.a2-a3 Ng4xe5
    8.a3xb4? Ne5-d3#


    Short Algebraic

    1.d4 Nf6
    2.c4 e5
    3.dxe5 Ng4
    4.Nf3 Nc6
    5.Bf4 Bb4+
    6.Nbd2 Qe7
    7.a3 Ngxe5
    8.axb4? Nd3#


    Descriptive

    1.P-Q4 Kt-KB3
    2.P-QB4 P-K4
    3.PxP Kt-Kt5
    4.Kt-KB3 Kt-QB3
    5.B-B4 B-Kt5 ch
    6.QKt-Q2 Q-K2
    7.P-QR3 KKtxKP
    8.PxB? Kt-Q6 mate

    The notation used in our "game history" window isn't the same as any of the above examples, by the way. (similar but slightly different....)

    The site also included examples of the FEN type notation that is not a record of moves in a game but rather is a way of making a notation of a specific board position at any particular time. (I think FEN stands for 'Forsyth-Edwards notation, doesn't it?)

    Anyway, this might be helpful.

    Marc
  12. 15 Nov '07 20:11
    well i always remember books and people telling me that 1.P-Q4 Kt-KB3 is called forsyth, the american notation we were told.

    short algebraic is so standard, i find it hard to believe the site doesn't have it.
  13. 16 Nov '07 15:27
    Originally posted by georgiecasey
    [b]well i always remember books and people telling me that 1.P-Q4 Kt-KB3 is called forsyth, the american notation we were told.
    I'm sorry, but if you reslly did find this in a book the book is a poor one,and anyone who told you this was mistaken. See my post of
    14 Nov '07 16:43 in this thread and the wikipedia article given.
    Forsyth was actually editor of a newspaper, the "Glasgow Weekly Herald" and invented this method of recording a position in 1883.
  14. 19 Nov '07 02:35
    It gives the last move on the page. EXAMPLE e2-e4. When you analyse the game it shows it like that in half moves also. Downloading pgn shows it like 1. d4 e6 2. Ng1f3 d5 which is what you want.