Adoration!

“Men are given to worshipping malevolent gods, and that which is not cruel seems to them not worth their adoration.”

—— Anatole France (1844-1924),

Originally posted by 667joe
“Men are given to worshipping malevolent gods, and that which is not cruel seems to them not worth their adoration.”

—— Anatole France (1844-1924),

So in other words, the dude thinks there are many gods.

IMHO there are zero, at least ones reacting to humans.

Originally posted by 667joe
“Men are given to worshipping malevolent gods, and that which is not cruel seems to them not worth their adoration.”

—— Anatole France (1844-1924),

Can I ask you what is your point with this?

Originally posted by Suzianne
Can I ask you what is your point with this?

If I had started a thread with this quote, I would have entitled it "Love v Fear" and I would have hoped for a discussion on perceptions of divine authority and whether "love " that is induced by coercion or threats or fear can ever be genuine love.

That is exactly my point! Love and fear are antithetical.

Originally posted by 667joe
That is exactly my point! Love and fear are antithetical.

Really? You cannot love and fear your father?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Really? You cannot love and fear your father?

Does your father threaten to torture you by holding you over flames?

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Can I ask what your point is with this-

Originally posted by KellyJay
Really? You cannot love and fear your father?

Dr. Strangelove

Originally posted by FMF
If I had started a thread with this quote, I would have entitled it "Love v Fear" and I would have hoped for a discussion on perceptions of divine authority and whether "love " that is induced by coercion or threats or fear can ever be genuine love.

I probably would have responded that perhaps Anatole France didn't know what he was talking about.

Originally posted by Suzianne
I probably would have responded that perhaps Anatole France didn't know what he was talking about.

Be that is it may, but the issue of whether "love" that is induced by coercion or threats or fear can ever be a genuine kind of love is not addressed by simply aiming a lazy ad hominem at a Nobel laureate who died in 1924.

Originally posted by FMF
Be that is it may, but the issue of whether "love" that is induced by coercion or threats or fear can ever be a genuine kind of love is not addressed by simply aiming a lazy ad hominem at a Nobel laureate who died in 1924.

That you label what I just said as an "ad hominem" IS an "ad hominem" (or perhaps an "ad femina" ).

If you open your thread with a quote, I expect the validity of the quote is open for debate. If you only want to talk about your imagined "ad Deus" attack, then perhaps you should open with what you want to talk about.

Originally posted by Suzianne
That you label what I just said as an "ad hominem" IS an "ad hominem" (or perhaps an "ad femina" ).

I don't think so. You claimed Anatole France didn't know what he was talking about which is taking aim at him personally rather than addressing what he said.

Originally posted by Suzianne
If you open your thread with a quote, I expect the validity of the quote is open for debate. If you only want to talk about your imagined "ad Deus" attack, then perhaps you should open with what you want to talk about.

Do you think "love" that is induced by coercion or threats or fear can ever be a genuine kind of love?