Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk If you do not have an objective standard of morality by which you can determine what is right or wrong, then what gives you the right to make moral judgments upon Nazi Germany or the God of the Bible?
Originally posted by chaney3 Atheism is not the answer.
Someday, your arrogance will shift.
I doubt it. Statistically more people leave Christian faiths than others like say Buddhists - which is a form a atheism and a system of pscychology really
As predicted you have deflected once again and remain unwilling to engage the question. Copy and paste the exact post from that thread which you think answers the question. You and I both know it's not there.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk As predicted you have deflected once again and remain unwilling to engage the question. Copy and paste the exact post from that thread which you think answers the question. You and I both know it's not there.
Originally posted by FMF This is another one of your set piece punchlines.
And this is yet again one of your set piece deflections. You claim that you have answered my question I claim that you haven't. All your have to produce is your supposed answer.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk You claim that you have answered my question I claim that you haven't. All your have to produce is your supposed answer.
No I don't have to do anything of the sort. I don't want or need to repeat myself. I don't need to copy paste anything. You may well feel your peculiar need to repeat the same assertions and questions time and time and time again. But I don't. Neither of us need to repeat anything. I know exactly what your views are. And you know exactly what my views are.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk And this is yet again one of your set piece deflections. You claim that you have answered my question I claim that you haven't. All your have to produce is your supposed answer.
Originally posted by josephw Why don't you demonstrate some intellectual honesty and stop beating around the bush and post the verses from the Bible that talk about the non-existence of hell?
Are you afraid of what you'll find? [hidden]I mean that in a kind way. Not as a challenge.[/hidden]
As I've already very clearly pointed out, I'm waiting for you to find the courage of your conviction and actually state what it is you believe about hell. Once you do this I'm more than happy to get into scripture with you.
By the way I'm calling you on your dishonesty in this matter. Just so you know where I'm coming from.
Originally posted by divegeester As I've already very clearly pointed out, I'm waiting for you to find the courage of your conviction and actually state what it is you believe about hell. Once you do this I'm more than happy to get into scripture with you.
By the way I'm calling you on your dishonesty in this matter. Just so you know where I'm coming from.
Originally posted by divegeester As I've already very clearly pointed out, I'm waiting for you to find the courage of your conviction and actually state what it is you believe about hell. Once you do this I'm more than happy to get into scripture with you.
By the way I'm calling you on your dishonesty in this matter. Just so you know where I'm coming from.
All you've pointed out is your fmf guided equivocating and misdirecting skills.
You're the one that stated that hell doesn't exist. It should be a simple matter to prove you're right. But you know you can't. So you're on the dodge and lack the courage to admit you're wrong.
Sorry, but that's the way it looks over here on this side of the monitor.
Originally posted by josephw All you've pointed out is your fmf guided equivocating and misdirecting skills.
You're the one that stated that hell doesn't exist. It should be a simple matter to prove you're right. But you know you can't. So you're on the dodge and lack the courage to admit you're wrong.
Sorry, but that's the way it looks over here on this side of the monitor.
I refuse to accept the horrible notion that unbelievers on Jesus will be kept alive for eternity and tortured in a fiery place called hell, in the presence of Jesus.
Do you believe this teaching josephw...why not have some courage to say what it is you believe instead of pissing about pretending to hold some sort of higher moral or intellectual ground, when we both know you don't?
Originally posted by divegeester I refuse to accept the horrible notion that unbelievers on Jesus will be kept alive for eternity and tortured in a fiery place called hell, in the presence of Jesus.
Do you believe this teaching josephw...why not have some courage to say what it is you believe instead of pissing about pretending to hold some sort of higher moral or intellectual ground, when we both know you don't?
I'm not pretending anything. At least nothing you know about. Certainly not a moral or intellectual higher ground.
Please, PLEASE, use the verses that support you views on hell. That's all I'm asking. Why you being such a dunder head?