Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk Clearly there are people who reject God and moral absolutes, so they would probably not be subservient to them. What do you think?
I think it doesn't matter if God is without a doubt the absolute in the universe. man can choose to obey Him or not, an ability we were given by God to reveal what type of people we are. Just as what is in our hearts comes out of our mouths, so to our actions and inaction. What should cause us fear is the Holy God who will stand in judgment us all, without His grace we all will be condemned for our sins.
Originally posted by divegeester Sure. My conscience tells me is is absolutely morally wrong to kill children. What does your conscience tell you about that, and why is there a difference?
Your conscience tells you it is wrong for God to take the lives of chldren. Whatever.
Originally posted by KellyJay I think it doesn't matter if God is without a doubt the absolute in the universe. man can choose to obey Him or not, an ability we were given by God to reveal what type of people we are. Just as what is in our hearts comes out of our mouths, so to our actions and inaction. What should cause us fear is the Holy God who will stand in judgment us all, without His grace we all will be condemned for our sins.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk Yes. Each time you disobey your conscience it is seared, eventually it loses sensitivity and you become 'rudderless'.
Do you believe that you will lose your "salvation" if ~ despite believing in Jesus and being repentant ~ you disobey your conscience too often and become "rudderless"?
Originally posted by FMF Do you believe that you will lose your "salvation" if ~ despite believing in Jesus and being repentant ~ you disobey your conscience too often and become "rudderless"?
The spirit of God convicts us of sin, if we are lead by the spirit and have a genuinely repentant heart, the spirit of God will always lead us back to the truth as long as we confess our sins and remain humble. He that started the good work in us promises to bring it to completion. We can always lean on that promise.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk The spirit of God convicts us of sin, if we are lead by the spirit and have a genuinely repentant heart, the spirit of God will always lead us back to the truth as long as we confess our sins and remain humble. He that started the good work in us promises to bring it to completion. We can always lean on that promise.
So "sin" doesn't actually matter or affect one's destiny as long as one believes and is repentant? Is that a fair summation? I am interested in comparing your ideology to sonship's.
Originally posted by FMF So "sin" doesn't actually matter or affect one's destiny as long as one believes and is repentant? Is that a fair summation? I am interested in comparing your ideology to sonship's.
Just to be clear I believe that someone who is truly repentant and believes will be sinning a lot less often that someone who isn't, because the process of sanctification will run its course. Being repentant and believing is not just a state of mind but a total submission of the will to God.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk Just to be clear I believe that someone who is truly repentant and believes will be sinning a lot less often that someone who isn't, because the process of sanctification will run its course. Being repentant and believing is not just a state of mind but a total submission of the will to God.
So, if someone is repentant and believes in Jesus but is still not "sinning a lot less", then their repentance and belief will be in vain and will not result in their "salvation", is that a fair summation?
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