Originally posted by finnegan
I understand that it is condemned but not why that is the end of the story. Which story does it end?
The notion that people choose to be homosexual has been thoroughly debunked so we are told to condemn people on the basis of the way they were born and for what is indeed in their very nature. That's pretty bothering. It's not clear for example what shou ...[text shortened]... mme of the Fascists less than a century ago, who started out indeed by attacking homosexuals.
The notion that people choose to be homosexual has been thoroughly debunked so we are told to condemn people on the basis of the way they were born and for what is indeed in their very nature. That's pretty bothering. It's not clear for example what should therefore be the approach to teenagers becoming very aware of their sexuality.
It is besides the point whether one was born as a homosexual or one was not, as far as the Gospel of Christ is concerned. This is because Christ taught that everyman must be born again
1.) To the man who was born heterosexual, Jesus says "You must be born again"
2.) To the man who claims he was born homosexual, Jesus likewise says "You must be born again."
However we were born the first time, it is necessary in Christ's teaching that we all be re-born.
Fifty years ago Homosexuality was listed in psychiatry books as a mental illness for the purpose of human treatment, not for condemnation. Today it is no longer written in the clinical books as a mental illness. Today some Phds. have persuaded most modern folks that it is a state one is born with.
But fifty years ago the Gospel still said "You must be born again."
That the populace attitude has changed, whether for the right or the wrong, Christ's words remain the same. We all must be born again. How you were born naturally the first time has never made any difference since Christ spoke those words.
Both the heterosexual and the homosexual need regeneration - to be spiritually born from God by receiving Christ.
My point in this post is that it is irrelevant to God's kingdom how you were born the first time. That is because the Son of God said "Marvel not that I said to you, You must be born anew." (John 3:7)
You must be born by having God Himself implanted into the deepest part of your spiritual being, your human spirit - "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (v.6)
To be "born again"
is to have the Triune God - the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit compounded into your very being as a seed of eternal life.
The Bible does not demand that you go off and on your own power be a "good person". Much less it requires you to be fixated on any particular human weakness, tendency, or sinful behavior. It teaches that we all need a new life. The new life is our first life with the resurrected Jesus actually implanted into our being through a second birth.
And we need to be born again not just because we are bad. We need to be born again because we are natural. We need God's life in Christ grafted into our natural life in a real supernatural re-birth.