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@mott-the-hoople saidJust trying to educate. 😉
I guess you missed the (edu) AJ included
a disingenuous lib tactic
@mott-the-hoople saidJust trying to educate. 😉
I guess you missed the (edu) AJ included
a disingenuous lib tactic
@wildgrass saidNo; I don't blame teachers. It's absurd to blame someone who takes advantage of an opportunity to make their lives easier without losing pay.Anyway, as I've been on record saying many times, I don't blame anyone for closing schools in the initial panic of the Spring of 2020. I blame those who made the same decisions after there had been plenty of time to clear their heads.
Stop beating around the bush, mate. You really wanna discuss who NOT to blame? Who is history coming for?
The national re ...[text shortened]... is would be like blaming the construction worker for a traffic jam.
You wanna blame teachers? Or?
@averagejoe1 saidEven forgetting grants, without Stafford loans subsidized by the Education Department you want to shut down (by the way, the DOE is the Department of Energy, not Education), paying for college is very difficult for many people.
This country has many sources of tuition loans. I got one myself, and paid it off in 5 years. The only requirement is good grades and scoring well on the LSAT. So I dpn't get you there, unless you are of the camp who wants college to be 'free'. Can you imagine the influx of losers who slide in, so that they can not have to enter the business world just yet? Total was ...[text shortened]... llege is not admissable for those who belong there. Planning, SH76. Making choices. Not that hard.
@kevcvs57 saidI'm not sure it's clear whether the New Deal shortened or lengthened the Great Depression, but even assuming the New Deal was the perfect thing to do at the time, it was such because of the Depression. Even FDR would never have proposed his package other than to fight the Depression.
Well Keynesian economics says it pays for itself in the end result and pump priming has its critics but it’s a better way of getting an economy moving that giving billionaires even more money.
FDR pulled the USA out of the gutter using those principles and it was ready to come out of wwwII as the only real super power apart from the heavily centralised and low growth Stalinist USSR
@averagejoe1 saidSo, your plan is to get 1/5 of the way there by making college inaccessible for half of the people?
Get rid of agencies starting with useless DOE (edu), and welfare dole out programs. DOE alone is about 100M a year. 100m here, 100M there can add up to $500B soon enough.
One of the holes in lib arguments is that they want to implement an idea that will 'go for 10 years', as if there would be NO SURPRISES that would be beging for more money. Is that when, since you ...[text shortened]... ? Or will you say, that , No AvJoe, the 10 year program will make us all whole again??!?!??! haha
@kevcvs57 saidOf course it can go wrong.
I don’t like a financial stimulus as in ( quantitative easing ) printing money to support the banking system but one that is targeted at infrastructure and manufacturing at home can’t really go wrong because at the end of the day a modern economy must have a reliable and functional infrastructure to operate and it generates jobs that can only be done by tax paying Americans
@averagejoe1 saidReducing spending by an amount necessary to close the federal budget deficit is impossible. Just mandatory spending and interest on the debt expenses are more than we collect in taxes.
Easy. Reduce spending. Have you seen Biden's latest plan of spending?
It is either that, or apply the rule of Baby Face Nelson, who said 'Why do I rob banks? Because that is where the money is!' So, y'all favor the second choice. Surely you have seen that the money of billionaires is a drop in the bucket, a spit in the ocean. It will not even dent the costs of ...[text shortened]... ple we are slashing free-money programs, some of which pay out more than someone would make working?
@kevcvs57 saidI don't agree about inflation. Even if inflation comes down between now and November, people aren't just going to forget that their dollar buys half of what it did in 2020.
I stopped being confidant about electorates after Brexit here in the UK. Hearts are more likely to turn out for elections than heads.
I’m not confident about Biden winning, too many variables like migration concerns, Gaza, at least suppressing the young and minority votes that he counts on, I don’t think inflation and the economy will be bd enough in November to make a difference.
As you say Trump is Biden’s only hope and by his own words he gets more toxic everyday.
@averagejoe1 saidOkay, AJ, let me ask you:
https://reason.com/2024/03/14/bidens-proposed-corporate-tax-hike-will-punish-the-average-american/
So MANY reasons, how about restricting corporations investing more in the company. Do y'all REALLY think Biden has the best minds when it comes to economics?
@shavixmir said===Oh, and by the way, studies have shown that missing out on the last year of primary school does not have any serious or long lasting effect on students.===
Of course closing schools is never a good thing.
But, sometimes you have to make tough decisions based on the information at hand.
And evaluations shouldn’t be about pointing fingers, they should increase knowledge so better decisions can be made in the future.
Typical, ill-informed, extremist malarkey.
Oh, and by the way, studies have shown that missing out on ...[text shortened]... on isn’t a tragedy.
Obviously “preferably not” , but if it happens, the world isn’t going to end.
@kevcvs57 saidThe article addresses that element as well:
Of course school closures were and are harmful, so is amputating a limb but it’s better than dying of gangrene.
Without the context of the harms that would have been caused without severe lockdown which is something we’ll never know because there were far too many people and organisations ignoring the shut downs and distancing / mask mandates
That was largely unknown in the spring of 2020, when schools first shut down. But several experts said that had changed by the fall of 2020, when there were initial signs that children were less likely to become seriously ill, and growing evidence from Europe and parts of the United States that opening schools, with safety measures, did not lead to significantly more transmission.
“Infectious disease leaders have generally agreed that school closures were not an important strategy in stemming the spread of Covid,” said Dr. Jeanne Noble, who directed the Covid response at the U.C.S.F. Parnassus emergency department.
@wildgrass saidTo start with, I'm not blaming any specific political philosophy. I'm blaming the people who kept schools into the 2020-2021 school year (and especially beyond that). I don't care what their other political beliefs are.
Who's that sh?
Come on, I know your natural instincts tell you to blame the pansy libbies, but our leader was too busy yelling about rigged elections that hadn't happened yet. Too chicken to make a decision.
Meanwhile we ran out of teachers. Maybe instead of a blame game, it could be lessons learned. Enact clear national guidelines, prepare schools for situations wher ...[text shortened]... s unions are on board with the plan, don't vote for demagogues who only care about their self image.
@kevcvs57 saidI don't think Oct 7 was a big enough issue to swing the election unless it was super-close anyway. If a few Muslims from Dearborn staying home is enough to swing Michigan to Trump, Biden was in trouble anyway.
Not disagreeing, suppressing the turnout is their only hope with trump on the ticket.
I think Biden managing to thread the needle between placating the young an minority voters and the pro Israeli majority in the dems on the Gaza issue might be the crux of the election in November
October the 7th was a bonus ball for Netanyahu, Putin and Trump. I’m not a conspiracy theorist but these timing issues have turned history many times