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    20 May '14 11:33
    Originally posted by vivify
    This movie was great. However, there was one huge, glaring plothole: why didn't the German simply offer to buy the slave from the Leonardo DiCaprio character outright? Why the pretense? Why go through a whole ruse? Doesn't it make sense that a German would want a slave that speaks German? Instead, they needlessly come up with some sorry about a fi ...[text shortened]... n as the fastest gun in the South. "

    One of my favorite westerns is "The Quick and the Dead".
    The plan was to buy Brunhilde's freedom at a price they could afford. Had they simply
    asked Calvin to buy Brunhilde, he would have immediately realised she meant a lot to them,
    and being a businessman he would have set the price accordingly. Instead, when the deal
    was to buy a ridiculously expensive mandingo fighter, Calvin offered Brunhilde at a low
    price as part of the deal. The plan, then, was to buy Brunhilde at once, and then go to fetch
    the money for the mandingo fighter, but never return.
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    20 May '14 12:122 edits
    Originally posted by C Hess
    The plan was to buy Brunhilde's freedom at a price they could afford. Had they simply
    asked Calvin to buy Brunhilde, he would have immediately realised she meant a lot to them,
    and being a businessman he would have set the price accordingly. Instead, when the deal
    was to buy a ridiculously expensive mandingo fighter, Calvin offered Brunhilde at a low
    ...[text shortened]... Brunhilde at once, and then go to fetch
    the money for the mandingo fighter, but never return.
    But he (the German) clearly had enough money, even at the inflated prices they had to pay anyway, when they were found out. He was also going to buy that slave who was torn apart by dogs. So money couldn't have been too much of a concern. Furthermore, earlier in the movie, He is shown making deals to buy slaves, so hee should be used to negotiating prices.

    I dunno. Still a great movie, though not actually a western.
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    20 May '14 12:33
    Originally posted by vivify
    But he (the German) clearly had enough money, even at the inflated prices they had to pay anyway, when they were found out. He was also going to buy that slave who was torn apart by dogs. So money couldn't have been too much of a concern. Furthermore, earlier in the movie, He is shown making deals to buy slaves, so hee should be used to negotiating prices.

    I dunno. Still a great movie, though not actually a western.
    Why pay a lot when you might get away with less? And shooting the man you're making a
    deal with (as in the beginning) is not usually considered good negotiation tactics.

    Your last sentence is just blasphemous. 😲 Not actually a western. Pffft...
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    20 May '14 12:44
    Originally posted by C Hess
    Why pay a lot when you might get away with less? And shooting the man you're making a
    deal with (as in the beginning) is not usually considered good negotiation tactics.

    Your last sentence is just blasphemous. 😲 Not actually a western. Pffft...
    He only shot those men because they threatened him, and pointed guns at him.

    And yeah, it takes place in the south, not the west.
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    20 May '14 17:25
    Originally posted by vivify
    And yeah, it takes place in the south, not the west.
    πŸ™‚
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    just watched desperado, was ok, also the Lee Marvin film about the last days of cowboys, was interesting to see Jack Palance as a good guy, he usually makes an awesome baddy.
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    21 May '14 19:54
    the quick and the dead was quite good, any more recommendations would be appreciated.
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    21 May '14 20:37
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    the quick and the dead was quite good, any more recommendations would be appreciated.
    Well, true grit (2010) wasn't half bad. Had a certain charm to it.
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    21 May '14 22:58
    Originally posted by C Hess
    Well, true grit (2010) wasn't half bad. Had a certain charm to it.
    I quite like Jeff Bridges films, ill give it a try.
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    22 May '14 08:53
    Originally posted by C Hess
    Well, true grit (2010) wasn't half bad. Had a certain charm to it.
    ok that was an awesome film, i loved the slightly archaic use of English. Any more?
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    22 May '14 09:013 edits
    My favorite westerns:
    Good, Bad, Ugly
    High Noon
    Once Upon A Time in the West
    Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid

    Sadly under-rated and little-known is John Ford's "Darling Clementine," with Henry Fonda, Linda Darnell, Victor Mature, Walter Brennan, Tim Holt.

    Haven't see Django Unchained, and won't--not after Pulp Fiction (I walked out of it).

    Not quite a western and not easy to classify otherwise: Treasure of the Sierra Madre. First-rate film by any standards.
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    22 May '14 11:54
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I quite like Jeff Bridges films, ill give it a try.
    Hey Robbie, I gave a tip O' the hat to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, your countryman, his birthday today. He is a mere 155.
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    22 May '14 13:14
    Originally posted by moonbus
    My favorite westerns:
    Good, Bad, Ugly
    High Noon
    Once Upon A Time in the West
    Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid

    Sadly under-rated and little-known is John Ford's "Darling Clementine," with Henry Fonda, Linda Darnell, Victor Mature, Walter Brennan, Tim Holt.

    Haven't see Django Unchained, and won't--not after Pulp Fiction (I walked out of it).

    Not q ...[text shortened]... not easy to classify otherwise: Treasure of the Sierra Madre. First-rate film by any standards.
    Treasure of the Sierra Madre

    just watched it - awesome movie.
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    22 May '14 14:05
    Originally posted by moonbus
    not after Pulp Fiction (I walked out of it).
    😲😲😲

    Wha...?
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    22 May '14 18:47
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    Yup, one day I'll watch it. I'm a bit Tarantino tired though. I think he should stop trying to be Tarantino so much. Must every movie he makes contain over-the-top violence and ridiculous amounts of swearing?

    If I were his close friend I'd challenge him to do something wildly unTarantino-like. Maybe a romantic comedy or something.

    Or porn.
    Tarentino is Tarentino. People go to his movies expecting exactly that, plenty of swearing and over-the-top violence.

    I take it you're not a Robert Rodriguez fan either?
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