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  1. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    26 Mar '11 08:36
    "In order to be genuinely fashionable you must avoid everything in fashion." John Ralston Saul.

    Discuss.
  2. 26 Mar '11 08:38
    Originally posted by FMF
    "In order to be genuinely fashionable you must avoid everything in fashion." John Ralston Saul.

    Discuss.
    Completely agree. I am very good at it!
  3. 26 Mar '11 15:01
    Originally posted by FMF
    "In order to be genuinely fashionable you must avoid everything in fashion." John Ralston Saul.

    Discuss.
    Fashion is the diktatura of the fashionista's taste over everybody else.

    Style is your own taste.

    Richard
  4. 26 Mar '11 18:08
    I tried fashion once.

    It didn't last.
  5. 26 Mar '11 18:42
    Originally posted by Shallow Blue
    Fashion is the diktatura of the fashionista's taste over everybody else.

    Style is your own taste.

    Richard
    Absolutely true. Dressing sui generis is definitely the way to go! Diktat by fashionistas is a terrible thing indeed!
  6. 26 Mar '11 20:21 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by FMF
    "In order to be genuinely fashionable you must avoid everything in fashion." John Ralston Saul.

    Discuss.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/in+fashion

    fash·ion (fshn)
    n.
    1. The prevailing style or custom, as in dress or behavior: out of fashion.
    2. Something, such as a garment, that is in the current mode: a swimsuit that is the latest fashion.
    3. The style characteristic of the social elite: a man of fashion.
    4.
    a. Manner or mode; way: Set the table in this fashion.
    b. A personal, often idiosyncratic manner: played the violin in his own curious fashion.
    5. Kind or variety; sort: people of all fashions.
    6. Shape or form; configuration.


    Going only by the quote, I'd guess that he's trying to make a distinction between definition #3 and definition #1 with the terms "genuinely fashionable" and "in fashion" respectively. So neither "self-destructing" nor a "paradox". More like two different "fashions" for two different "classes".
  7. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    27 Mar '11 10:52
    "Only those with no memory insist on their originality."

    Coco Chanel.
  8. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    31 Mar '11 10:39
    Originally posted by FMF
    "In order to be genuinely fashionable you must avoid everything in fashion." John Ralston Saul.

    Discuss.
    In Henry David Thoreau's book Walden, Thoreau writes (paraphrased) "The head monkey in Paris put's on a red hat, and so all the little monkeys put on red hats" I think this is a good defination of fashion.😏
  9. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    31 Mar '11 12:52
    Since we are in a quoting mood:

    "Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months."
    - Oscar Wilde
  10. 31 Mar '11 14:12
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Since we are in a quoting mood:

    "Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months."
    - Oscar Wilde
    I've liked this one since I first heard it:

    "I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes." -author unknown
  11. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    31 Mar '11 14:26
    “A fashionable woman does not suffer financial pressures, because Fashion has, precisely, full power to defeat them" (Mallarme, writing as Mme de Ponty)
    http://fashionandpower.blogspot.com/2010/02/mallarme-fashion-magazine.html
  12. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    31 Mar '11 14:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    "In order to be genuinely fashionable you must avoid everything in fashion." John Ralston Saul.

    Discuss.
    I'd say he lives up to his motto:

    http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/05/21/1225869/715130-john-ralston-saul.jpg
  13. 03 Apr '11 13:57
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    “A fashionable woman does not suffer financial pressures, because Fashion has, precisely, full power to defeat them" (Mallarme, writing as Mme de Ponty)
    http://fashionandpower.blogspot.com/2010/02/mallarme-fashion-magazine.html
    Myeah.

    In other news, Beau Brummell was a bankrupt.

    Richard
  14. 03 Apr '11 13:58
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I'd say he lives up to his motto:

    http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/05/21/1225869/715130-john-ralston-saul.jpg
    You think so? Blue linnen trowse, greyish-ecru jacket, almost but not quite pink shirt... I'd say that he conforms exactly to the fashionable image of his class of men of the last few years. I'd bet you at least a bag of crisps that ten years ago he wouldn't have worn that shirt; and the jacket does not fit well enough.

    Richard
  15. Standard member Bosse de Nage
    Zellulärer Automat
    05 Apr '11 11:04
    Originally posted by Shallow Blue
    You think so? Blue linnen trowse, greyish-ecru jacket, almost but not quite pink shirt... I'd say that he conforms exactly to the fashionable image of his class of men of the last few years. I'd bet you at least a bag of crisps that ten years ago he wouldn't have worn that shirt; and the jacket does not fit well enough.

    Richard
    It's the pants that I find resolutely unfashionable. The principle is in the pants. It is noteworthy how artfully Saul has arranged himself to show off his 'unfashionable' look.

    Compare the more classically styled AC Grayling:
    http://communicatescience.com/zoonomian/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ac-grayling31.jpg
    http://www.doctorofdisbelief.com/files/a-c-grayling-at-desk.jpg

    I wonder if his look will be affected by his newfound ability to eat mangoes.