Porn and Women

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Once the revolution is complete, what then?

It's never complete, it asymptotes.

Originally posted by Palynka
It's never complete, it asymptotes.

Rude curves, man.

Originally posted by Palynka
Why does it need to be an "inherent behaviour"? Is football? Is playing chess? Which forms of entertainment are "inherent behaviour"? That's a too stringent criteria.

Women like sex. Is this really news? Nope. Do women like porn? I don't see why they shouldn't, especially if made to cater their fantasies too. There are some surveys out there that seem to ...[text shortened]... est that they like different things in porn (as expected) so there room for female porn.

Oh, there is room for everything: American Idol, iPads,
hamsters up the bottom, you name it.

What is your point exactly? Mine is that re-engineering
an old product for "female audiences" is a big cliché...
like specially female-geared food, gyms, holidays, etc.

For crying out loud: it is porn. It has always been. It will
always be. Just like food, holidays, TV shows, you name it.

I mean, come on, what a uncreative way of fostering
consumerism.

Originally posted by Palynka
Women like sex. Is this really news? Nope. Do women like porn? I don't see why they shouldn't, especially if made to cater their fantasies too.

You are. obviously, correct. That doesn't automatically mean that the site in question is equally so. If they produce porn for women, catered to female tastes, fine. But if they, as was quoted, claim to "make love, not porn", then they're being hypocritical. If they made love, not porn, they wouldn't sell it. You can only sell sex, not love. Love is an emotion, and can't be bundled and transported, whereas sex is an act which can be. Sex and love (often) have to do with one another, but they're not the same. Pretending to sell "love, not porn" conflates them, and is dishonest to the customer; pretending to buy ditto, dishonest to oneself.
By the way: porn with a female slant is far from a new thing. It's been around for decades, probably longer. And I'm not even talking about Mills & Boon; I mean actual porn, made by women for women. Most of which is honestly labeled "porn". So it's not as if this is a revolutionary idea, either.

Richard

I thought "female porn" meant those cheap pink romantic novels
sold in airports with a drawn cover portraying a muscular Clark
Gable lookalike, dressed as pirate, about to kiss a princess.

Originally posted by Shallow Blue
You are. obviously, correct. That doesn't automatically mean that the site in question is equally so. If they produce porn for women, catered to female tastes, fine. But if they, as was quoted, claim to "make love, not porn", then they're being hypocritical. If they made love, not porn, they wouldn't sell it. You can only sell sex, not love. Love is an labeled "porn". So it's not as if this is a revolutionary idea, either.

Richard

I agree wholeheartedly.

Including the remarks about the hypocritical nature of that quote in Erika Lust's website. However, the article talks about others who are pretty explicit about labeling what they do as porn. There's a big contrast between what Petra Joy and Erika Lust say and I think Joy's quotes ring more true and direct to me. Erika's comments could be tainted by the fear of feminist backlash ruining her business (or a curious appeal to the anti-porn brigade using softer wording).

I'm also not saying it's a radically new idea, more a comment about how overdue the "mainstreamization" of it is and how it seems to be under way.

Hey, you never agree wholeheartedly with me :'(

Originally posted by Seitse
Hey, you never agree wholeheartedly with me :'(

I would agree wholeheartedly with that but then that would mean I wouldn't...

So I agree threequarterheartedly with that.

Originally posted by Palynka
I would agree wholeheartedly with that but then that would mean I wouldn't...

So I agree threequarterheartedly with that.

That makes me feel like female porn: having a mild, half erection.

Originally posted by Seitse
That makes me feel like female porn: having a mild, half erection.

Can you fluff yourself?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Can you fluff yourself?

Define fluff.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Can you fluff yourself?

I've heard The Member called many things, but never "self."

Interesting.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Once the revolution is complete, what then?

Porn for fetuses?

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Porn for fetuses?

Obsessed much?

Hey, does anybody remember something like "porn for pets"?

I think I read something about it once in the Daily Mail.