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    02 Sep '09 16:35
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Please. The 80's were filled with dark music. The 90s saw the explosion of happy boy bands and Spice Girls clones, etc.

    You have all types of music at all times. Uzless just likes soundbytes.
    Yes, but the explosion of boy-girl bands was pretty much right around the time the dotcom bubble began to rise. 😉

    It's an interesting coincidence, let's just leave it at that.
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    02 Sep '09 16:461 edit
    Originally posted by darvlay
    Yes, but the explosion of boy-girl bands was pretty much right around the time the dotcom bubble began to rise. 😉

    It's an interesting coincidence, let's just leave it at that.
    Spice Girls and Take That predated the rise of the dotcom bubble. Anyway, when I look at the 80s I see A LOT of dark music. But maybe that's just bias.
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    Originally posted by Palynka
    Please. The 80's were filled with dark music. The 90s saw the explosion of happy boy bands and Spice Girls clones, etc.

    You have all types of music at all times. Uzless just likes soundbytes.
    ug, i tried to be a bit general for the ADD folks here who don't like details.

    just for you palynka....

    the 90's can be split into 2.

    1990-1995 - economy was in a recession..music was dark/anger/angst exemplified by bands like Nirvana/Tool/SP/Jane's/AliceinChains/NIN etc

    1996-2000 economy turned around...music turned around..grunge died and was replaced by boy bands/girls bands/psuedo rock bands (Bush/our lady peace/green day) who sang happier popppy sounds.

    Alan Cross goes on to explain that the music that is popular at the time is largely a function of the listener. When people are happy they want to hear happy sounds...when they are sad/angry they want to hear angry/angst sounds. Every decade has all forms of music in them, but the listener chooses which one of those forms he/she is interested. The economy tends to dominate most people's choice of music and is reflected by which form of music gains popularity at that time.

    But look, you seem to auto-reject anything uzless says, so why not listen to an expert on the subject of music instead. Go here for a brief intro..

    http://www.exploremusic.com/ongoing-history-of-new-music/2009-08-26/Cycles-of-Rock

    It's too bad the podcasts were removed due to licensing issues...you might have learned something had I been able to post the link.
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    02 Sep '09 17:211 edit
    Here is a list of the top 200 songs of the the past decade as put together by listeners at a Toronto radio station..102.1

    Pretty sad indictment of the decade if you ask me.

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    1 Red Hot Chili Peppers • Dani California
    2 U2 • Beautiful Day
    3 The White Stripes • Seven-Nation Army
    4 Red Hot Chili Peppers • Can't Stop
    5 Sam Roberts • Brother Down
    6 Linkin Park • Numb
    7 Green Day • Holiday
    8 Rage Against The Machine • Renegades Of Funk
    9 Coldplay • Yellow
    10 Foo Fighters • The Pretender
    11 Bedouin Soundclash • When The Night Feels My Song
    12 The Killers • Mr. Brightside
    13 Franz Ferdinand • Take Me Out
    14 Green Day • Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
    15 Gorillaz • Feel Good Inc.
    16 The Killers • Somebody Told Me
    17 Linkin Park • In The End
    18 Red Hot Chili Peppers • By The Way
    19 Outkast • Hey Ya!
    20 Coldplay • Speed Of Sound
    21 Green Day • American Idiot
    22 Tool • The Pot
    23 Our Lady Peace • Somewhere Out There
    24 Nirvana • You Know You're Right
    25 Blink-182 • All The Small Things
    26 Tool • Schism
    27 Nickelback • How You Remind Me
    28 Linkin Park • One Step Closer
    29 3 Doors Down • Kryptonite
    30 Sum 41 • Pieces
    31 Jimmy Eat World • The Middle
    32 Green Day • Wake Me Up When September Ends
    33 Coldplay • Viva La Vida
    34 Gorillaz • Clint Eastwood
    35 U2 • Veritgo
    36 Queens Of The Stone Age • Little Sister
    37 Audioslave • Be Yourself
    38 Weezer • Beverly Hills
    39 Green Day • Minority
    40 Incubus • Drive
    41 The Tragically Hip • My Music At Work
    42 P.O.D. • Alive
    43 Foo Fighters • Times Like These
    44 Billy Talent • Try Honesty
    45 Jet • Are You Gonna Be My Girl
    46 Weezer • Pork And Beans
    47 U2 • Elevation
    48 Coldplay • Clocks
    49 Linkin Park • Faint
    50 k-os • Crabbuckit
    51 Modest Mouse • Float On
    52 The Killers • When You Were Young
    53 Blink-182 • What's My Age Again?
    54 Puddle Of Mudd • Blurry
    55 Three Days Grace • I Hate Everything About You
    56 Audioslave • Doesn't Remind Me
    57 Linkin Park • Somewhere I Belong
    58 Sum 41 • In Too Deep
    59 Coldplay • Violet Hill
    60 Neverending White Lights • The Grace
    61 Evanescence • Bring Me To Life
    62 Nine Inch Nails • The Hand That Feeds
    63 Blink-182 • First Date
    64 Coldplay • In My Place
    65 Sum 41 • Fat Lip
    66 The White Stripes • Icky Thump
    67 Hot Hot Heat • Bandages
    68 Arctic Monkeys • I Bet You Look Good On The Dance Floor
    69 Finger Eleven • One Thing
    70 Incubus • I Wish You Were Here
    71 Alexisonfire • This Could Be Anywhere In The World
    72 Eminem • Lose Yourself
    73 Death From Above 1979 • Romantic Rights
    74 Foo Fighters • Best Of You
    75 City And Colour • Save Your Scissors
    76 Gnarls Barkley • Crazy
    77 Finger Eleven • First Time
    78 Silversun Pickups • Lazy Eye
    79 Kings Of Leon • Sex On Fire
    80 Rise Against • Ready To Fall
    81 Alexisonfire • Boiled Frogs
    82 Against Me! • Thrash Unreal
    83 Disturbed • Down With The Sickness
    84 Audioslave • Cochise
    85 Nickelback • Too Bad
    86 The Killers • All These Things That I've Done
    87 3 Doors Down • When I'm Gone
    88 The Tragically Hip • In View
    89 Papa Roach • Last Resort
    90 Billy Talent • The Ex
    91 Jet • Cold Hard Bitch
    92 Weezer • Hashpipe
    93 Foo Fighters • Long Road To Ruin
    94 Queens Of The Stone Age • Make It Wit Chu
    95 Incubus • Megalomaniac
    96 Wolfmother • Woman
    97 Green Day • Warning
    98 Billy Talent • Devil In A Midnight Mass
    99 Muse • Starlight
    100 Finger Eleven • Paralyzer
    101 Red Hot Chili Peppers • Tell Me Baby
    102 The White Stripes • Fell In Love With A Girl
    103 Three Days Grace • Animal I Have Become
    104 Queens Of The Stone Age • No One Knows
    105 Rise Against • Prayer Of The Refugee
    106 Sum 41 • Still Waiting
    107 Foo Fighters • Let It Die
    108 k-os • Man I Used To Be
    109 U2 • All Because Of You
    110 The Raconteurs • Steady As She Goes
    111 The Stills • Still In Love Song
    112 Foo Fighters • All My Life
    113 Three Days Grace • Never Too Late
    114 Creed • Higher
    115 Sam Roberts • Where Have All The Good People Gone?
    116 Three Days Grace • Just Like You
    117 System Of A Down • Chop Suey!
    118 The New Pornographers • Use It
    119 A.F.I. • Miss Murder
    120 Metric • Gimme Sympathy
    121 Incubus • Anna Molly
    122 k-os • Sunday Morning
    123 MGMT • Kids
    124 Muse • Time Is Running Out
    125 Velvet Revolver • Fall To Pieces
    126 Billy Talent • Nothing To Lose
    127 A Perfect Circle • Judith
    128 The Fratellis • Flathead
    129 Red Hot Chili Peppers • Snow (Hey Oh)
    130 Pearl Jam • Worldwide Suicide
    131 Rise Against • The Good Left Undone
    132 Metric • Monster Hospital
    133 Coldplay • Talk
    134 Nickelback • Someday
    135 Nine Inch Nails • Only
    136 Bedouin Soundclash • St. Andrews
    137 Kings Of Leon • Use Somebody
    138 Metric • Dead Disco
    139 Rise Against • Swing Life Away
    140 Billy Talent • Rusted From The Rain
    141 Death Cab For Cutie • Soul Meets Body
    142 Sam Roberts • Them Kids
    143 Beastie Boys • Ch-Check It Out
    144 Billy Talent • Red Flag
    145 Linkin Park • What I've Done
    146 Gorillaz • D.A.R.E.
    147 Arcade Fire • Neighbourhood #3 (Power Out)
    148 Foo Fighters • D.O.A.
    149 Default • Wasting My Time
    150 The White Stripes • Blue Orchid
    151 The Weakerthans • The Reasons
    152 Snow Patrol • Chasing Cars
    153 Alexisonfire • Accidents
    154 Pearl Jam • Brother
    155 Finger Eleven • Good Times
    156 Rise Against • Re-Education (Through Labour)
    157 Chad Kroeger/Josey Scott • Hero
    158 Jimmy Eat World • Sweetness
    159 City And Colour • Sleeping Sickness
    160 Limp Bizkit • Rollin'
    161 Lenny Kravitz • American Woman
    162 Linkin Park • Lying From You
    163 Gob • I Hear You Calling
    164 Social Distortion • Far Behind
    165 Neverending White Lights • Always
    166 My Chemical Romance • Welcome To The Black Parade
    167 k-os • Crucial
    168 Nine Inch Nails • Survivalism
    169 Billy Talent • Surrender
    170 Yeah Yeah Yeahs • Maps
    171 City and Colour • Comin' Home
    172 Moby/Gwen Stefani • Southside
    173 Arcade Fire • Rebellion (Lies)
    174 Silversun Pickups • Panic Switch
    175 Sam Roberts • Bridge To Nowhere
    176 Cake • Short Skirt Long Jacket
    177 Our Lady Peace • In Repair
    178 Serj Tankian • Empty Walls
    179 Oasis • The Shock Of The Lightning
    180 Metric • Combat Baby
    181 MGMT • Time To Pretend
    182 Illscarlett • Heaters
    183 Coldplay • The Scientist
    184 Our Lady Peace • Innocent
    185 Weezer • Island In The Sun
    186 Mobile • Out Of My Head
    187 Social Distortion • Reach For The Sky
    188 Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker • Hollow Point Sniper Hyperbole
    189 Audioslave • I Am The Highway
    190 Billy Talent • The River Below
    191 Tool • Lateralus
    192 Sam Roberts • Don't Walk Away Eileen
    193 Sloan • The Other Man
    194 Queens Of The Stone Age • Go With The Flow
    195 Thornley • So Far, So Good
    196 Broken Social Scene • Cause=Time
    197 Audioslave • Like A Stone
    198 Treble Charger • American Psycho
    199 The Trews • So She's Leaving
    200 Linkin Park • Crawling

    http://www.edge.ca/Music/Countdowns/Top200Millennium.aspx
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    02 Sep '09 17:361 edit
    Originally posted by uzless
    Here is a list of the top 200 songs of the the past decade as put together by listeners at a Toronto radio station..102.1

    Pretty sad indictment of the decade if you ask me.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------


    1 Red Hot Chili Peppers • Dani California
    2 U2 • Beautiful Day
    3 The White Stripes • Seven-N Linkin Park • Crawling

    http://www.edge.ca/Music/Countdowns/Top200Millennium.aspx
    It's a sad indictment of the radio station more than anything.

    EDIT - my God, that is the worst list I have ever seen.
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    02 Sep '09 17:51
    Originally posted by uzless
    ug, i tried to be a bit general for the ADD folks here who don't like details.

    just for you palynka....

    the 90's can be split into 2.

    1990-1995 - economy was in a recession..music was dark/anger/angst exemplified by bands like Nirvana/Tool/SP/Jane's/AliceinChains/NIN etc

    1996-2000 economy turned around...music turned around..grunge died and was re ...[text shortened]... ue to licensing issues...you might have learned something had I been able to post the link.
    Take That - Formed in 1990
    Spice Girls - Formed in 1994
    etc
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    02 Sep '09 18:03
    Originally posted by darvlay
    It's a sad indictment of the radio station more than anything.

    EDIT - my God, that is the worst list I have ever seen.
    I can't have been listening.
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    02 Sep '09 18:07
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Spice Girls and Take That predated the rise of the dotcom bubble. Anyway, when I look at the 80s I see A LOT of dark music. But maybe that's just bias.
    You see right. It's just that dark music became mainstream in the 1990s. As for the economic analogies, map them onto the trajectory plotted by The Cure; and weep.
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    02 Sep '09 18:081 edit
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Take That - Formed in 1990
    Spice Girls - Formed in 1994
    etc
    NKOTB - formed in the 80's
    BBD - formed in the 80's
    mnudo - 80's

    Rather than point out individual bands, take the genre as a whole and look at it from a macro perspective. Like i said, all forms of music are present at every moment in time...it's just a question of which form most people are listening to at that given moment.

    Perhaps you should stick to commenting on things less complicated. Like what's your favorite colour or what's your favourite pizza topping....
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    02 Sep '09 18:10
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    It's just that dark music became mainstream in the 1990s. .
    Bingo. There was always dark music...it just became mainstream/more popular as the economy turned sour.
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    02 Sep '09 18:10
    Originally posted by uzless
    what's your favourite pizza topping....
    Salted cod.
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    02 Sep '09 18:10
    Originally posted by uzless
    NKOTB - formed in the 80's
    BBD - formed in the 80's
    mnudo - 80's

    Rather than point out individual bands, take the genre as a whole and look at it from a macro perspective. Like i said, all forms of music are present at every moment in time...it's just a question of which form most people are listening to at that given moment.

    Perhaps you should s ...[text shortened]... complicated. Like what's your favorite colour or what's your favourite pizza topping....
    LOL, you don't think the rise of the girl/boy bands (the epitome of poppy happy sounds) in a supposedly "dark age" puts a dent in your theory?
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    I see what you did there.
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    02 Sep '09 18:15
    Originally posted by uzless
    Bingo. There was always dark music...it just became mainstream/more popular as the economy turned sour.
    At that period in the UK, there was a shift away from dark music to happy druggy music. I'd hesitate to draw an economic analogy with the popularity of E.
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