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  1. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    08 Sep '09 22:50 / 1 edit
    What with the fuss and kerfuffle that the mainstream right has made over Bucky Beau's pep rally to the nations students, and the free publicity and interest it generated for the event, (which incidentally has only served to bolster support for Obama as a moderate 'presidential' President), are we in fact seeing the right doing the most effective job in marginalising itself?
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    08 Sep '09 23:06
    Bucky Beau???

    Where do you get these nicknames?
  3. 08 Sep '09 23:17
    Originally posted by kmax87
    What with the fuss and kerfuffle that the mainstream right has made over Bucky Beau's pep rally to the nations students, and the free publicity and interest it generated for the event, (which incidentally has only served to bolster support for Obama as a moderate 'presidential' President), are we in fact seeing the right doing the most effective job in marginalising itself?
    I think there was an effective message put out. We don't want Obama near our kids as long as he wishes to create an Obama youth.
  4. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Sep '09 00:03
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    I think there was an effective message put out. We don't want Obama near our kids as long as he wishes to create an Obama youth.
    to me this is the real conspiracy. Fox et al are a false flag op, sponsored by Murdoch who is nothing if not a globalist and therefore by joining the dots not really a friend of the patriotic American heartland. For every over the top exaggeration of what Obama's agenda actually is or what it delivers, surely it only further damages the credibility of the Right's voice
  5. 09 Sep '09 01:06
    Originally posted by kmax87
    to me this is the real conspiracy. Fox et al are a false flag op, sponsored by Murdoch who is nothing if not a globalist and therefore by joining the dots not really a friend of the patriotic American heartland. For every over the top exaggeration of what Obama's agenda actually is or what it delivers, surely it only further damages the credibility of the Right's voice
    I don't care for Fox either. The rights credibility is forever damaged, but more because of the Bush clan than Fox. The dems will soon find themselves without a party as well. Not because of the media but because even they will not like a facist dictatership. They are trying to cover what they are doing with the word socialism. Obama can still be a true hero in the United States, but he would have to buck the most powerfull organization in the world to do so.
  6. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Sep '09 02:15
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    Obama can still be a true hero in the United States, but he would have to buck the most powerfull organization in the world to do so.
    yeah the odds of a young charismatic leader surviving policies that act in the public's interest are not good in America.
  7. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Sep '09 02:16
    Originally posted by sh76
    Bucky Beau???

    Where do you get these nicknames?
    oh its just a cast in the shoes of Lincoln, Huckelberry Hick thing.
  8. 09 Sep '09 02:16
    Originally posted by kmax87
    yeah the odds of a young charismatic leader surviving policies that act in the public's interest are not good in America.
    Not good anywhere in the world right now.
  9. 09 Sep '09 02:24 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by kmax87
    What with the fuss and kerfuffle that the mainstream right has made over Bucky Beau's pep rally to the nations students, and the free publicity and interest it generated for the event, (which incidentally has only served to bolster support for Obama as a moderate 'presidential' President), are we in fact seeing the right doing the most effective job in marginalising itself?
    The problem was not his speaking to the kids but the accompaning lesson plan/and the wording of it("what can I do to help the President",etc).
    After such disapproval it was scrapped and the white house said they made a mistake

    But then again The Dems opposed vehemently GH Bush's speech to school children in 1991. They were on him like white on rice!
  10. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Sep '09 14:37
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    The problem was not his speaking to the kids but the accompaning lesson plan/and the wording of it("what can I do to help the President",etc).
    After such disapproval it was scrapped and the white house said they made a mistake

    But then again The Dems opposed vehemently GH Bush's speech to school children in 1991. They were on him like white on rice!
    Well it seems more likely that the headless right has been played like fools by Bucky's team, who drip fed a speech they were never going to present in order to garner a whole lot of free publicity, and demonstrate once more the trivial tabloid nature of the mainstream right, with their love for hystericall hyperbole.

    Fox and Fiends should take the credit for adding to Bucky's standing as an inspirational leader!
  11. 09 Sep '09 14:46 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by kmax87
    Well it seems more likely that the headless right has been played like fools by Bucky's team, who drip fed a speech they were never going to present in order to garner a whole lot of free publicity, and demonstrate once more the trivial tabloid nature of the mainstream right, with their love for hystericall hyperbole.

    Fox and Fiends should take the credit for adding to Bucky's standing as an inspirational leader!
    No.I disagree. It put him in a bad light again.And, HIS Rev.Wrights latest racist comments were perfect timing adding more fuel to the fire.Not to mention HIS commie racist green czar debacle.(Van Jones)
    Another bad week for "The Chosen ONE" LOL
  12. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Sep '09 15:15
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    No.I disagree. It put him in a bad light again.And, HIS Rev.Wrights latest racist comments were perfect timing adding more fuel to the fire.Not to mention HIS commie racist green czar debacle.(Van Jones)
    Another bad week for "The Chosen ONE" LOL
    I suppose as ever the filter you prefer to apply more often than not leads to opposing conclusions, that is, as long as you stay tuned to the analysis on your side of the fence.
  13. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    09 Sep '09 15:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    No.I disagree. It put him in a bad light again.And, HIS Rev.Wrights latest racist comments were perfect timing adding more fuel to the fire.Not to mention HIS commie racist green czar debacle.(Van Jones)
    Another bad week for "The Chosen ONE" LOL
    He'll never admit it, but I'll bet that if the President could stuff Rev. Wright in some compound out west with no communication with the outside World, he'd do it in a heartbeat.

    Did you hear the Reverend's latest comments?

    "I think the racists in the right wing are upset because poor people are about to be helped."

    http://www.examiner.com/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Rev-Jeremiah-Wright-slams-right-wing-racists-in-new-video

    What a clueless moron! To take his comment at face value, why would racists be interested in not helping the poor? Most racists probably are poor. Having an antiquated racist attitude has got to be some level of barrier to success.

    Second of all, why would anyone be upset that poor people are going to be helped?

    If, as Kmax has posited, making a big stink about the school speech is good for Obama, then this is the polar opposite. Every time that albatross opens his mouth the right wingers salivate.
  14. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    09 Sep '09 15:29
    Originally posted by sh76
    ..... why would racists be interested in not helping the poor? Most racists probably are poor. Having an antiquated racist attitude has got to be some level of barrier to success.....
    possibly only if you are open and overt about it. I didnt think supporters of the gop were poor btw!
  15. 09 Sep '09 15:29
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    I think there was an effective message put out. We don't want Obama near our kids as long as he wishes to create an Obama youth.
    We don't want Obama near our kids

    1. he's not a pedofile.

    2. how do you know he wants an Obama youth?