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  1. 04 Apr '16 12:30 / 3 edits
    It's funny to watch the Presidential campaigns start out with the issue of illegal immigration, and then end up on abortion.

    First, "the Donald" is snookered by Chris Matthews of all people into answering a hypothetical question about abortion. Trump said that "if" abortion were illegal, should women be punished? Trump answered 'yes". For the first time in his Presidential bid, people now seem to care what he is actually saying. Incredible. PC finally caught up to the Trumpster. Then when he realized people were upset and it was going to negatively effect him, Trump tries to back peddle on the issue. Hilarious.

    Now Hillary comes out and calls the unborn a "person" or "unborn child". She then further said that such persons had no Constitutional rights, but that there needed to be restrictions on abortion in the third trimester???? Wow, just wow.

    So it looks like the two front runners have snookered themselves.

    What is most enjoyable for me is that I don't like either of them and realize that both would abort their own mothers if the money was right. I don't think that either care much about the issue, nor given it much thought. Hopefully, it will now bite them both in the arse.
  2. 04 Apr '16 14:25
    Didn't take you for much of a snooker fan, whodey. What's your biggest break thus far? I think mine is a 5 or something.
  3. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    04 Apr '16 14:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    It's funny to watch the Presidential campaigns start out with the issue of illegal immigration, and then end up on abortion.

    First, "the Donald" is snookered by Chris Matthews of all people into answering a hypothetical question about abortion. Trump said that "if" abortion were illegal, should women be punished? Trump answered 'yes". For the first time ...[text shortened]... about the issue, nor given it much thought. Hopefully, it will now bite them both in the arse.
    It doesn't really matter. Donald Trump has trashed his campaign and much of his own party in this election cycle with his abrasive remarks about latinos, women, muslims, and other minorities. This latest dumb remark about punishing women who get abortions is just another example. Hillary is not very popular, but she won't have to be this time around, "The Donald" has made Hillary's job pretty easy.
  4. 04 Apr '16 14:58
    Originally posted by whodey
    It's funny to watch the Presidential campaigns start out with the issue of illegal immigration, and then end up on abortion.

    First, "the Donald" is snookered by Chris Matthews of all people into answering a hypothetical question about abortion. Drumpf said that "if" abortion were illegal, should women be punished? Drumpf answered 'yes". For the first ti ...[text shortened]... about the issue, nor given it much thought. Hopefully, it will now bite them both in the arse.
    "It's funny to watch the Presidential campaigns start out with the issue of illegal immigration, and then end up on abortion."
    what's so funny? obviously there are more than 1 issue concerning the US. The campaign is also not a sweet sixteen birthday party, it is not supposed to have just one theme. you are allowed to have issues unrelated to one another.

    "First, "the Donald" is snookered by Chris Matthews of all people into answering a hypothetical question about abortion."
    yes, the media is starting to panic that they maybe gave trump too much rope (with which he might hang the american people) and they are finally calling him out on his incoherence and lack of any substance.

    "PC finally caught up to the Trumpster."
    "PC" is a term awful people use to complain about the rest of the people not allowing them to be awful.
  5. 04 Apr '16 15:00
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    "It's funny to watch the Presidential campaigns start out with the issue of illegal immigration, and then end up on abortion."
    what's so funny? obviously there are more than 1 issue concerning the US. The campaign is also not a sweet sixteen birthday party, it is not supposed to have just one theme. you are allowed to have issues unrelated to one another.
    In addition they are two of the most talked about issues in US politics. If they didn't come up, then it might have been funny.
  6. 04 Apr '16 16:46
    Originally posted by bill718
    It doesn't really matter. Donald Trump has trashed his campaign and much of his own party in this election cycle with his abrasive remarks about latinos, women, muslims, and other minorities. This latest dumb remark about punishing women who get abortions is just another example. Hillary is not very popular, but she won't have to be this time around, "The Donald" has made Hillary's job pretty easy.
    You don't get it bill.

    A large number of supporters of Trump are not conservative. They could care less about issues like abortion. Trump supporters are only interested in one thing, more money. Like Trump, they only care about their bottom line, which is threatened if they are required to be responsible for their reproduction decisions by being forced to care for the unborn. This is why it is killing Trump.
  7. 04 Apr '16 16:56
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    In addition they are two of the most talked about issues in US politics. If they didn't come up, then it might have been funny.
    Illegal immigration is an ongoing problem. Either make it legal, or enforce the law.

    Abortion is always talked about, but the chance of Congress banning it are so slim as to be non existent. Presidential candidates are asked their preferences, but it is extremely doubtful, if any President would ever get to sign a bill making abortion illegal.
  8. 04 Apr '16 17:01
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Illegal immigration is an ongoing problem. Either make it legal, or enforce the law.

    Abortion is always talked about, but the chance of Congress banning it are so slim as to be non existent. Presidential candidates are asked their preferences, but it is extremely doubtful, if any President would ever get to sign a bill making abortion illegal.
    Then Hillary comes along and says that late term abortions should be regulated.

    I guess she does not believe in the birth fairy that waves his wand over the fetus as it exists the womb to make him human for the first time.
  9. 04 Apr '16 17:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    Then Hillary comes along and says that late term abortions should be regulated.

    I guess she does not believe in the birth fairy that waves his wand over the fetus as it exists the womb to make him human for the first time.
    Hillary Clinton comes from the school that everything in existence ought to be regulated by government. Does this surprise you?
  10. 04 Apr '16 17:07
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Hillary Clinton comes from the school that everything in existence ought to be regulated by government. Does this surprise you?
    Yes is does.

    Libs want everything regulated EXCEPT abortion, illegal drugs, illicit sex, gambling, and the like. Essentially, they want our vices to go unchecked while telling us that we make too much money, live in houses that are too big, and anything else related to free trade.

    They don't just want our wallets to be empty, they want our very souls to be morally bankrupt.
  11. 04 Apr '16 18:10
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Illegal immigration is an ongoing problem. Either make it legal, or enforce the law.

    Abortion is always talked about, but the chance of Congress banning it are so slim as to be non existent. Presidential candidates are asked their preferences, but it is extremely doubtful, if any President would ever get to sign a bill making abortion illegal.
    I didn't suggest that the issues didn't exist. I merely pointed out that they are two of the most talked about issues in US politics and if anyone finds it 'funny' that they both came up in US politics he is being disingenuous. But with whodey being the poster, that goes without saying.

    They are both polarizing issues ie many people have strong opinions on the matter and will change their vote based on a candidates views on the matter.

    I personally don't think they are anywhere near the most important issues the US currently faces. Legalizing immigration or deporting all the illegals would not actually benefit the people who want something done about it.

    I had thought that the same applied to abortion but looking up the statistics I see that it does directly affect a large proportion of americans, so maybe that issue should be discussed.
  12. 04 Apr '16 18:45
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Hillary Clinton comes from the school that everything in existence ought to be regulated by government. Does this surprise you?
    Can you cite Clinton saying or implying that "everything in existence ought to be regulated by [the] government"?
  13. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    04 Apr '16 19:56
    Originally posted by whodey
    Like Trump, they only care about their bottom line, which is threatened if they are required to be responsible for their reproduction decisions by being forced to care for the unborn.
    Or for the already born, frankly.
  14. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    04 Apr '16 20:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    They don't just want our wallets to be empty, they want our very souls to be morally bankrupt.
    Oops, too late.

    Republicans talk like they want everyone to be as well off as they are.

    Republicans walk like they don't give a damn about anybody who doesn't make as much money as they do, or whose skin is darker than theirs.

    Look at their latest: they wanted the SCOTUS to decide in their favor that they can use total number of registered voters, instead of total population to redraw voting districts in Texas. This would favor districts in rural districts, where white people live, over densely populated rural districts, which are more racially diverse. What don't the Republicans understand about "one person, one vote"?

    The conservative moral bankruptcy comes from within, and it's already taken root. Liberals just want to contain the damage when they come after the rest of us.
  15. 04 Apr '16 20:31 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Can you cite Clinton saying or implying that "everything in existence ought to be regulated by [the] government"?
    You mean its not? I thought it was.

    Are you sure about this?