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  1. 04 Oct '10 01:56 / 3 edits
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018304-503544.html

    Democrat Alan Grayson is running for re-election to Congress in Florida. He is running against Republican opponent Dan Webster. However, what gives Alan Grayson national recognition are the political ads that he is running against Webster. Essentially, the negative political ad blantantly takes words from video clips from Webster and twists them to mean the exact opposite of what he was discussing in the video clips. The lie is easilty exposed with the video clips shown in its context much like the woman accused by the right in the NAACP as being a racist. However, this is a sitting Congressman we are talking about and not some back room right wing think tank. The lies involve trying to show that voting for Webster is tantamount to voting for a member of the Taliban.

    Of course, this outrageous behavoir is not foriegn to Alan Grayson. In fact, he testified before Congress stating that the Republican plan for health care was for people to die quickly.

    Is it me or is this guy an embarassment to the Democratic party and the nation?
  2. 04 Oct '10 04:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018304-503544.html

    Democrat Alan Grayson is running for re-election to Congress in Florida. He is running against Republican opponent Dan Webster. However, what gives Alan Grayson national recognition are the political ads that he is running against Webster. Essentially, the negative political ad blantantly takes ...[text shortened]... die quickly.

    Is it me or is this guy an embarassment to the Democratic party and the nation?
    Personally, I have never seen a edit job done so out of context. Its really appalling.
    Did he actually think he would get away w/it in todays day and age?
  3. 04 Oct '10 16:55
    http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2010/october/158012/Big-shift-by-analyst-in-Alan-Grayson-Dan-Webster-race

    Big shift by analyst in Alan Grayson-Dan Webster race

    By Scott Harris, News Anchor
    Last Updated: Monday, October 4, 2010

    ...

    According to Silver, incumbent Democrat Alan Grayson has gone from an almost 59 percent chance of winning to less than 40 percent in one week! Silver relies mostly on polls and statistical analysis, and has no narrative to explain the shift. He does note last week's Sunshine State Poll, which had Webster up seven points.

    Of course, last week was marked by heavy publicity over the Grayson campaign ad that called Webster 'Taliban Dan.' Many of the reports noted a certain amount of backlash against Grayson.

    ...
  4. 04 Oct '10 19:19 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018304-503544.html

    Democrat Alan Grayson is running for re-election to Congress in Florida. He is running against Republican opponent Dan Webster. However, what gives Alan Grayson national recognition are the political ads that he is running against Webster. Essentially, the negative political ad blantantly takes ...[text shortened]... die quickly.

    Is it me or is this guy an embarassment to the Democratic party and the nation?
    Essentially, the negative political ad blantantly takes words from video clips from Webster and twists them to mean the exact opposite of what he was discussing in the video clips.

    This has been an extremely common tactic in political ads (by both parties) for as long as I can remember. And as long as this tactic works, it will continue to prevail.

    Pretty much every campaign will dig up some soundbite, remove all context, play ominous music in the background, and the opponent's reputation is toast.

    Of course the opposition is making similar ads, so is it any wonder that most people trust none of the people running for office?
  5. 04 Oct '10 23:44 / 6 edits
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    [b]Essentially, the negative political ad blantantly takes words from video clips from Webster and twists them to mean the exact opposite of what he was discussing in the video clips.

    This has been an extremely common tactic in political ads (by both parties) for as long as I can remember. And as long as this tactic works, it will continue to preva similar ads, so is it any wonder that most people trust none of the people running for office?[/b]
    Usually when someone runs negative ads the accusations are not provable. For example, "W" caused the economy to collapse or he was in the back pocket of BP etc. You don't have any proof of those accuastaions but you certainly don't have any proof that you are lying either. What Grayson is doing, however, is using his opponents words clearly out of context. Therefore, his ads are not only negative, they are easily proven false. And lastly, he compares his opponent to the Taliban. To make such an accusation, you best have proof.

    Face it, Alan Grayson is just plan stupid and, therefore, needs to be singled out as an example. You might say that Alan is "special".