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ALL of your facts, wrong, on July 4 temp thread

ALL of your facts, wrong, on July 4 temp thread

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AverageJoe1
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Y'all just fly off the handle, with no real facts. Pitiful . All of your posts were wasted, since the temperature is the hottest since record-keeping in 1979. Since 1979.!! You throw all kinds of meaningless phrases, like '8 billion years'. Has nothing to do with the facts. Geez.

https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/fourth-of-july-was-planets-hottest-day-since-at-least-1979-today-could-be-hotter.html

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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66104822

Scientists say the reading was the highest in any instrumental record dating back to the end of the 19th century.

Monday's high was also the warmest since satellite monitoring began in 1979.

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@averagejoe1 said
Y'all just fly off the handle, with no real facts. Pitiful . All of your posts were wasted, since the temperature is the hottest since record-keeping in 1979. Since 1979.!! You throw all kinds of meaningless phrases, like '8 billion years'. Has nothing to do with the facts. Geez.

https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/fourth-of-july-was-planets-hottest-day-since-at-least-1979-today-could-be-hotter.html
Dude… you just been shot down like a Mott in a Sopwith Camel, flying in the Vietnam war…. Spiriling headlong to your argumentative doom… screaming like a pig… don’t bring a bi-plane to a jet engined fight.

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@shavixmir
BIPLANE? Sure, more like roller skates🙂

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@shavixmir said
Dude… you just been shot down like a Mott in a Sopwith Camel, flying in the Vietnam war…. Spiriling headlong to your argumentative doom… screaming like a pig… don’t bring a bi-plane to a jet engined fight.
1/ One day is the weather not the climate.
2/ To get comparable results you need comparable measuring equipment which was not around 100 years ago or even 45 years ago.

I could play with your lame analogy, but it's just too damn unfunnyly lame.

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Why do you RWNs not accept that climate change is real?

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@wajoma said
1/ One day is the weather not the climate.
2/ To get comparable results you need comparable measuring equipment which was not around 100 years ago or even 45 years ago.

I could play with your lame analogy, but it's just too damn unfunnyly lame.
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@shavixmir said
Dude… you just been shot down like a Mott in a Sopwith Camel, flying in the Vietnam war…. Spiriling headlong to your argumentative doom… screaming like a pig… don’t bring a bi-plane to a jet engined fight.
Huh? Then why does the headline in the article say Hottest Day Since at Least 1979? Why is the report qualified, to 1979?
You will not answer this question?.

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@averagejoe1 said
Huh? Then why does the headline in the article say Hottest Day Since at Least 1979? Why is the report qualified, to 1979?
You will not answer this question?.
selective facts…

all facts…
https://www.infoplease.com/math-science/weather/record-highest-temperatures-by-state

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@averagejoe1 said
Y'all just fly off the handle, with no real facts. Pitiful . All of your posts were wasted, since the temperature is the hottest since record-keeping in 1979. Since 1979.!! You throw all kinds of meaningless phrases, like '8 billion years'. Has nothing to do with the facts. Geez.

https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/fourth-of-july-was-planets-hottest-day-since-at-least-1979-today-could-be-hotter.html
So do you want to clarify what exactly you mean by "facts2, by "observations" by "interpretations" and fromulate a debatable hypothesis?

So no satellitte record before 1979. That is a fact.
No higher mean temperature measured by satellite up to now. An Observation, and since the "mean" in the temperature part is debatable (preferably in the science thread with meaningful argumenst (and no "I say so" is none) we don't put it up as fact.
Other obseravtions, which have been used to create a timetable of temperatures over the past 2000 or so years show: no higher mean temperature, we can conclude that it was indeed the hottest day (in the mean over the whole globe) in that timeframe.

And please bring foward te person who cliamed "the last 8 billion years",. There is in fact no way to estimate mean temperatures over the globe without flora and fauna. The conmclusion I have heard about temperature was that at the Turonian age (put about 100 million before our time) temperatures were above today's level, and the poles were not covered in ice.

So of course the temperature variation over very long periods of time are vast, that doesn't mean that fast chnages can be disastrous to the living flora and fauna.

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@ponderable said
So do you want to clarify what exactly you mean by "facts2, by "observations" by "interpretations" and fromulate a debatable hypothesis?

So no satellitte record before 1979. That is a fact.
No higher mean temperature measured by satellite up to now. An Observation, and since the "mean" in the temperature part is debatable (preferably in the science thread with meaningf ...[text shortened]... time are vast, that doesn't mean that fast chnages can be disastrous to the living flora and fauna.
I just posted the article, I know nothing about Science. I hope you are not mad at me, you seem mad.
If it is not an issue, why was the article published, and reference made to 1979 records forward? Never mind, I don't even understand your answer above!!

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@averagejoe1 said
Y'all just fly off the handle, with no real facts. Pitiful . All of your posts were wasted, since the temperature is the hottest since record-keeping in 1979. Since 1979.!! You throw all kinds of meaningless phrases, like '8 billion years'. Has nothing to do with the facts. Geez.

https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/fourth-of-july-was-planets-hottest-day-since-at-least-1979-today-could-be-hotter.html
They cherry picked temps from cities. All cities are warmer than rural areas because of the heat island effect. With cities getting bigger the temps get higher. Some as much higher as 15%.

If city dwellers do not like the hot temps in summer they should either move to the country or plant more trees in the city.

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@metal-brain said
They cherry picked temps from cities.
Wrong. The record is for the *global* temp.

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@divegeester
Are you sure? We are having a very moderate summer thus far in the Midwest.

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@vivify said
Wrong. The record is for the *global* temp.
You mean global city temps?

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