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  1. 22 Oct '17 23:35 / 3 edits
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/outrageous-gretchen-carlson-and-others-react-to-new-bill-oreilly-revelation/ar-AAtS9wU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

    'Outrageous:' Gretchen Carlson and others react to new Bill O'Reilly revelation."

    "The New York Times reported on Saturday that O'Reilly paid $32 million to a
    Fox News colleague who threatened to sue him for alleged sexual misconduct.

    The settlement was struck in January. It was supposed to stay secret.
    Weeks later, Fox News renewed O'Reilly's contract, reportedly worth $25 million a year.
    Fox says it knew about the existence of the settlement, but not the price tag."

    "Twitter and Facebook lit up about the jaw-dropping payment.
    "Nobody pays $32m for false allegations - nobody," Carlson tweeted.
    Joy Reid of MSNBC commented: "Let me guess: you just had $32 million lying
    around and decided to give it to a nice lady you totally didn't sexually assault."

    "O'Reilly was only fired after there was blowback from another Times story -- a
    months-long investigation that revealed previously secret settlement payments to
    other O'Reilly accusers. The story came out on April 1. O'Reilly denied wrongdoing,
    but Fox opened an investigation and companies yanked ads from his show."

    So Bill O'Reilly paid 32 million USD to a 'nice lady' whom he claims to be completely
    innocent of sexually assaulting. As far as I know, she has not been named at this time.

    All that I can say is that none of the many 'nice ladies' who I know have ever
    been paid 32 million USD by any man who has *not* sexually assaulted them.
  2. Subscriber mchill
    Infinitorum
    23 Oct '17 05:50 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/outrageous-gretchen-carlson-and-others-react-to-new-bill-oreilly-revelation/ar-AAtS9wU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

    'Outrageous:' Gretchen Carlson and others react to new Bill O'Reilly revelation."

    "The New York Times reported on Saturday that O'Reilly paid $32 million to a
    Fox News colleague who threatened to sue him for ...[text shortened]... who I know have ever
    been paid 32 million USD by any man who has *not* sexually assaulted them.
    "The New York Times reported on Saturday that O'Reilly paid $32 million to a
    Fox News colleague who threatened to sue him for alleged sexual misconduct.


    And when non white males sexually assault women, Duchess is equally outraged, right???
  3. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    23 Oct '17 05:56 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    All that I can say is that none of the many 'nice ladies' who I know have ever
    been paid 32 million USD by any man who has *not* sexually assaulted them.


    And when non white males sexually assault women, Duchess is equally outraged, right???
    Even if I were a white male like you, I doubt I'd actually try to defend Bill O'Reilly, under any circumstances. He's a hypocrite. Go find his exchange with Jake Tapper on Twitter. Jake is right. And guess what? They're both white guys. Weird, huh?


    Bill O'Reilly‏ @BillOReilly Oct 18

    Sean Hannity kicking serious butt in the ratings. Tapper on CNN as low as you can go.


    Jake Tapper‏ @jaketapper Oct 18

    "Low" would be sexually harassing staffers and then getting fired for it -- humiliated in front of the world. Now THAT would be low.
  4. Subscriber mchill
    Infinitorum
    23 Oct '17 06:03 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Even if I were a white male like you, I doubt I'd actually try to defend Bill O'Reilly, under any circumstances. He's a hypocrite. Go find his exchange with Jake Tapper on Twitter. Jake is right.
    I don't recall trying to defend Bill O'Reilly Suzianne. I do recall the extremely one sided, racist views of Duchess as she attacks white males for everything she can think of, while turning a blind eye to the same things when non white males do it. When was the last time Duchess expressed her outrage when an African or Asian American male was guilty of the same offences?

    You seem like a pretty smart lady, I'm surprised I have to spell this out for you.
  5. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    23 Oct '17 06:11
    Originally posted by @mchill
    I don't recall trying to defend Bill O'Reilly Suzianne. I do recall the extremely one sided, racist views of Duchess as she attacks white males for everything she can think of, while turning a blind eye to the same things when non white males do it. When was the last time Duchess expressed her outrage when an African or Asian American male was guilty of the ...[text shortened]... offences?

    You seem like a pretty smart lady, I'm surprised I have to spell this out for you.
    I just don't think you should be bringing this up on a thread which is about what Bill O'Reilly did. It makes you look like you're giving him a pass.

    The higher road might be you saying she's right in this case. Because she is.
  6. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    23 Oct '17 06:12 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    I don't recall trying to defend Bill O'Reilly Suzianne. I do recall the extremely one sided, racist views of Duchess as she attacks white males for everything she can think of, while turning a blind eye to the same things when non white males do it. When was the last time Duchess expressed her outrage when an African or Asian American male was guilty of the ...[text shortened]... offences?

    You seem like a pretty smart lady, I'm surprised I have to spell this out for you.
    I would be interested to read your list of non-white male sexual assualt predators that the Duchess apparently gives a pass too.
  7. 23 Oct '17 09:57
    Bill did not even have to leave the country.

    Impressive.

    So what does this say about the American legal system? Does it mean that if you have enough money you can do anything you please?
  8. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    23 Oct '17 10:15
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Bill did not even have to leave the country.

    Impressive.

    So what does this say about the American legal system? Does it mean that if you have enough money you can do anything you please?
    Why don't you ask OJ.
  9. 23 Oct '17 21:05
    Originally posted by @mchill to Suzianne
    I don't recall trying to defend Bill O'Reilly Suzianne. I do recall the extremely one sided, racist views of Duchess as she attacks white males for everything she can think of, while turning a blind eye to the same things when non white males do it. When was the last time Duchess expressed her outrage when an African or Asian American male was gu ...[text shortened]... offences?

    You seem like a pretty smart lady, I'm surprised I have to spell this out for you.
    Mchill keeps showing that he's a lying racist troll, who's obsessed with hatred of me.
    In this thread, no one else so far has shown willingness to feed his ludicrous trolling.

    For the record, I have criticized Bill Cosby for his alleged sexual abuse of women.
    I don't recall ever criticizing any prominent Asian American man in the US media for
    allegedly abusing women because I don't know of any Asian American man who's even
    prominent in the US media, let alone anyone who's been accused of abusing women.
  10. 23 Oct '17 21:09
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/outrageous-gretchen-carlson-and-others-react-to-new-bill-oreilly-revelation/ar-AAtS9wU?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

    'Outrageous:' Gretchen Carlson and others react to new Bill O'Reilly revelation."

    "The New York Times reported on Saturday that O'Reilly paid $32 million to a
    Fox News colleague who threatened to sue him for ...[text shortened]... who I know have ever
    been paid 32 million USD by any man who has *not* sexually assaulted them.
    I would submit that the only reason why Bill O'Reilly paid 32 million USD to a woman at Fox
    News is because he was afraid that if she sued him, then he likely would lose even more.
    So his claims of complete innocence sound implausible to me.
  11. 23 Oct '17 21:30
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Bill did not even have to leave the country.

    Impressive.

    So what does this say about the American legal system? Does it mean that if you have enough money you can do anything you please?
    It fascinates me that Americans put up with a two-tiered legal system where wealthy individuals are judged according to a different legal standard.

    Of course, the possibility to settle legal disputes not about money with a financial sum should be removed altogether.
  12. 23 Oct '17 21:40
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra to Whodey
    It fascinates me that Americans put up with a two-tiered legal system where wealthy individuals are judged according to a different legal standard.

    Of course, the possibility to settle legal disputes not about money with a financial sum should be removed altogether.
    Most Americans apparently believe that the wealthy *should* be entitled to much better
    lives in every way, including in the US legal, health, and educational systems.
  13. 24 Oct '17 01:53 / 1 edit
    Lis Wiehl has been named as the woman whom Bill O'Reilly paid 32 million USD.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/23/media/bill-oreilly-lis-wiehl-settlement/

    "Bill O'Reilly portrays himself as the victim in interview with New York Times"

    "On Monday he went on the attack against The Times, saying the newspaper "obviously hates me."
    But he has not disputed the facts surrounding his $32 million settlement with longtime
    Fox News colleague Lis Wiehl, who was a legal analyst for the network."

    "He also suggested there is a conspiracy against him involving CNN, the liberal and
    anti-Fox press watchdog group Media Matters for America, and others.
    It was clear from the interview that he feels he is the real victim.
    Wiehl, meanwhile, is remaining silent, in accordance with the terms of the settlement."

    "Wiehl had come forward and threatened to sue O'Reilly in January. The deal was struck
    in a matter of days, according to The Times. CNN has independently confirmed the
    $32 million figure and reviewed a copy of Wiehl's affidavit in the case.

    Why O'Reilly was willing to pay Wiehl so much money is the crux of the mystery.
    "Her allegations included repeated sexual harassment during her 15-year tenure as a
    legal analyst at Fox News," Steel said. "We also know that she made allegations of a
    nonconsensual sexual relationship, and that her allegations included that he sent her
    pornographic material that included gay pornography.""

    Is 'non-consensual sexual relationship' a euphemism for rape?

    "Wiehl's affidavit, dated January 17, affirms that she considered suing, but says,
    "we have since resolved all of our issues. I would no longer make the allegations contained in
    the draft complaint." The next day, she told colleagues that she was leaving Fox News."
  14. 24 Oct '17 02:07
    https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2017/10/23/The-worst-of-Bill-OReillys-on-air-denigration-and-harassment-of-Lis-Wiehl/218301

    "The worst of Bill O’Reilly’s on-air denigration and harassment of Lis Wiehl"

    " A Media Matters review finds that Wiehl received a steady stream of sexually suggestive and
    demeaning on-air commentary from O’Reilly while serving as the co-host of his nationally
    syndicated radio show a decade ago. O’Reilly described Wiehl as “eye candy” for his
    pleasure, urged her to conduct a protest in a bikini, called for her to be strip-searched,
    and suggested that she learn to dance at strip clubs, among other despicable remarks."

    Some sexist men have made remarks about women in this forum that are at least as despicable as Bill O'Reilly's.

    "Even if you go to Europe -- if you go to Italy and you're a good-looking woman like Lis is,
    you're gonna have to be black and blue all day long, if you know what I'm talking about.
    Guys are gonna put their hands on you in that society in Italy, in Spain, all right."
    --Bill O'Reilly (talking about Lis Wiehl)

    Bill O'Reilly's position about the supposed inevitability of sexual harassment or sexual assault
    toward a 'good-looking' woman has been used by some writers here to attempt to excuse
    Harvey Weinstein's alleged sexual harassment or sexual assault of many women.

    Although most American writers here seem determined to frame every issue in terms of narrow
    US partisan politics, sexual harassment and assault are not 'conservative' vs 'liberal' issues.
  15. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    24 Oct '17 04:24
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Even if I were a white male like you, I doubt I'd actually try to defend Bill O'Reilly, under any circumstances. He's a hypocrite. Go find his exchange with Jake Tapper on Twitter. Jake is right. And guess what? They're both white guys. Weird, huh?


    Bill O'Reilly‏ @BillOReilly Oct 18

    Sean Hannity kicking serious butt in the ratings. Tapper o ...[text shortened]... affers and then getting fired for it -- humiliated in front of the world. Now THAT would be low.
    Hahaha

    Great stuff!