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    09 Nov '18 11:23
    the violent arm of the left...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/8/antifa-targets-tucker-carlson-hit-list-expands-con/
  2. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    It is interesting to note that it is the Proud Boys who are completely banned from Facebook and have had their social media presence diminished in other places but Antifa persists.

    Indeed, the very page responsible for organizing the gathering at Tucker Carlson's home is still present on social media.

    There are some pretty severe double standards out there.
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    the violent arm of the left...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/8/antifa-targets-tucker-carlson-hit-list-expands-con/
    It's a shocking development when journalists are threatened.
    I'm sure 99% of "the Left" as you like to call them condemn this.

    Do you have any particular point to make?

    Perhaps we should debate how the POTUS
    could de-escalate the rising political violence in US?
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    10 Nov '18 07:40
    @philokalia said
    It is interesting to note that it is the Proud Boys who are completely banned from Facebook and have had their social media presence diminished in other places but Antifa persists.

    Indeed, the very page responsible for organizing the gathering at Tucker Carlson's home is still present on social media.

    There are some pretty severe double standards out there.
    Did you hear about this on Fox News?
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    the violent arm of the left...

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/8/antifa-targets-tucker-carlson-hit-list-expands-con/
    Do you actually like being afraid?

    You suck up all of Fox News' fear like you're addicted to it.

    Imagine that.
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    10 Nov '18 08:40
    Yeah, let’s blame anti-fascists..
    They’re so much worse than fascists...
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    10 Nov '18 11:29
    @shavixmir said
    Yeah, let’s blame anti-fascists..
    They’re so much worse than fascists...
    In ideology, they are similar, aren't they?

    In volume of attacks and actual influence upon society, Antifa beats out the "fascists" by leaps and bounds.

    Indeed, you can say that the Fascists do not even register in the equation.

    How can Fascists be viewed as oppressors or as people violating the rights of others? They possess zero institutional power and are literally being rounded up or monitored into the ground by authorities.
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    10 Nov '18 11:35
    @philokalia said
    It is interesting to note that it is the Proud Boys who are completely banned from Facebook and have had their social media presence diminished in other places but Antifa persists.

    Indeed, the very page responsible for organizing the gathering at Tucker Carlson's home is still present on social media.

    There are some pretty severe double standards out there.
    PayPal has shut down several accounts, including those for far-right group the Proud Boys and their founder, Gavin McInnes, for the promotion of “hate, violence, or other forms of intolerance.” Several anti-fascist groups were also banned as part of the same wave of policy enforcement.

    https://techcrunch.com/2018/11/09/paypal-shuts-down-accounts-for-proud-boys-and-founder-mcinnes-as-well-as-antifa-groups/
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    10 Nov '18 11:38
    @philokalia said
    In ideology, they are similar, aren't they?

    In volume of attacks and actual influence upon society, Antifa beats out the "fascists" by leaps and bounds.

    Indeed, you can say that the Fascists do not even register in the equation.

    How can Fascists be viewed as oppressors or as people violating the rights of others? They possess zero institutional power and are literally being rounded up or monitored into the ground by authorities.
    In ideology, they are similar, aren't they?

    No, they aren't.

    In volume of attacks and actual influence upon society, Antifa beats out the "fascists" by leaps and bounds.

    No, they don't.

    Indeed, you can say that the Fascists do not even register in the equation.

    No, you can't.

    How can Fascists be viewed as oppressors or as people violating the rights of others? They possess zero institutional power [...]

    No, they don't.

    [...] and are literally being rounded up or monitored into the ground by authorities.

    No, most of them aren't.
  10. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    10 Nov '18 12:02
    Kazet, I'd love to discuss these sorts of issues with you but you haven't actually provided content but mere single sentence disagreements.

    That comes off as transparently inadequate before everyone and thus I think you're... showing some kind of obvious contempt for my post? But I am not sure.
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    10 Nov '18 12:47
    @wolfgang59 said
    It's a shocking development when journalists are threatened.
    I'm sure 99% of "the Left" as you like to call them condemn this.

    Do you have any particular point to make?

    Perhaps we should debate how the POTUS
    could de-escalate the rising political violence in US?
    Surrender to Antifa?
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    10 Nov '18 12:55
    @philokalia said
    Kazet, I'd love to discuss these sorts of issues with you but you haven't actually provided content but mere single sentence disagreements.

    That comes off as transparently inadequate before everyone and thus I think you're... showing some kind of obvious contempt for my post? But I am not sure.
    Try backing up statements with some kind of evidence, and you might get a more substantial response.
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    10 Nov '18 18:32
    @kazetnagorra said
    Try backing up statements with some kind of evidence, and you might get a more substantial response.
    "Try backing up statements with some kind of evidence"

    LOL...are you for real? why would he "back up" your statements? ah the lunacy of the left.
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    10 Nov '18 19:121 edit
    @philokalia said
    It is interesting to note that it is the Proud Boys who are completely banned from Facebook and have had their social media presence diminished in other places but Antifa persists.

    Indeed, the very page responsible for organizing the gathering at Tucker Carlson's home is still present on social media.

    There are some pretty severe double standards out there.
    Antifa isn’t picking fights in my hood but the Proud Boys are

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-proud-boys-bar-20180717-story.html
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    10 Nov '18 19:41
    @philokalia said
    In ideology, they are similar, aren't they?

    In volume of attacks and actual influence upon society, Antifa beats out the "fascists" by leaps and bounds.

    Indeed, you can say that the Fascists do not even register in the equation.

    How can Fascists be viewed as oppressors or as people violating the rights of others? They possess zero institutional power and are literally being rounded up or monitored into the ground by authorities.
    Actually it's not even close: https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/

    Snippet:

    Marilyn Mayo, senior research fellow for the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, said that statistics show that radical leftists have been dramatically less likely to kill people than their counterparts on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. Mayo told us:

    I don’t want to give moral equivalence to the two sides because one side is fighting against white supremacy. On the Antifa side, they’ve never murdered anyone but there have been many murders done by white supremacists, so we have to be concerned about that movement.
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