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  1. Standard membershavixmir
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    11 May '16 05:00
    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36263292

    The entertainment giant said second quarter net income rose to $2.1bn with earnings per share up 6% to $1.30, below forecasts of $1.40 a share.

    Films like "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" and "Zootopia" helped drive up revenue but cable subscribers fell.

    Disney's shares fell 6% in after hours trading.


    So, Disney, makes billions and still their shares fall.
    Shouldn't something be done about crap like this?
    Why can't we drag these greedy bastards out into the street and shoot them?

    What could be done (seriously) about this sort of madness?
  2. Germany
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    11 May '16 06:11
    You shouldn't try to read anything into short-term stock market fluctuations.
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    11 May '16 07:541 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    So, Disney, makes billions and still their shares fall.
    Shouldn't something be done about crap like this?
    Why can't we drag these greedy bastards out into the street and shoot them?

    What could be done (seriously) about this sort of madnes?
    Do you even know what share prices are? Why would you be upset that the share prices fell? Why do you call people who sold the shares 'greedy bastards' if it is your claim that the shares are actually worth more? Just be quiet and go buy some Disney shares.
    Oh, I know what happened. You did buy shares, but you did so before the drop.

    If the share prices fell it suggests that shareholders had expected even better results and Disney was over priced. Of course it could also just mean that there are better opportunities to be had elsewhere. Or it could mean that one person sold and everyone else copied.

    I do agree with the thread title though, the stock market gambling system is not good for the world. It is essentially allowing people who serve no useful purpose and do no useful work to siphon off money from publicly traded companies, pension funds, banks and more.

    What could be done? Simple, tax trading. The hard part is getting that through government which is in the pocket of Wall Street (and its equivalents).
  4. Standard memberbill718
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    11 May '16 09:16
    Shouldn't something be done about crap like this?
    Why can't we drag these greedy bastards out into the street and shoot them?

    I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if someone did shoot them.
  5. Cape Town
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    11 May '16 09:21
    Originally posted by bill718
    I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if someone did shoot them.
    Do you have a pension plan? If so, you might be one of 'them'.
  6. Standard memberfinnegan
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    11 May '16 09:281 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    [b]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36263292

    The entertainment giant said second quarter net income rose to $2.1bn with earnings per share up 6% to $1.30, below forecasts of $1.40 a share.

    Films like "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" and "Zootopia" helped drive up revenue but cable subscribers fell.

    Disney's shares fell 6% in after hours trading. [/b ...[text shortened]... ut into the street and shoot them?

    What could be done (seriously) about this sort of madness?
    Shares reflect expectations about future earnings not past earnings.

    Typically the market is wrong of course. Trying to predict which films will make money is a fool's game. When a film does make money, then after-the-event people rush to admire the intelligent design that made that happen. For every megabucks success there is a scrapyard filled with expensive flops, and there is no point hoping a random storm will blow and turn the scraps into a jumbo jet. Natural selection does not happen that way.
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    11 May '16 10:42
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    [b]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36263292

    The entertainment giant said second quarter net income rose to $2.1bn with earnings per share up 6% to $1.30, below forecasts of $1.40 a share.

    Films like "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" and "Zootopia" helped drive up revenue but cable subscribers fell.

    Disney's shares fell 6% in after hours trading. [/b ...[text shortened]... ut into the street and shoot them?

    What could be done (seriously) about this sort of madness?
    Complains about all the US threads, starts a thread about a US corporation and Wall St.

    🙄
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    11 May '16 15:26
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    [b]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36263292

    The entertainment giant said second quarter net income rose to $2.1bn with earnings per share up 6% to $1.30, below forecasts of $1.40 a share.

    Films like "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" and "Zootopia" helped drive up revenue but cable subscribers fell.

    Disney's shares fell 6% in after hours trading. [/b ...[text shortened]... ut into the street and shoot them?

    What could be done (seriously) about this sort of madness?
    Are you really so hateful that you feel it is OK to advocate dragging someone out into the street and shooting them because a stock price went down? Why is OK to to advocate shooting Wall Street people and not say African American children or Hillary Clinton supporters?
    Reasonable people would agree that no one should ever be the victim of vigilante justice. And while I assume you aren't actually suggesting that anyone be killed (though you might be happy if it actually happened), it is amazing that violent hateful illogical suggestions of violence against certain groups is completely accepted on this forum.
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    11 May '16 16:16
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    [b]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36263292

    The entertainment giant said second quarter net income rose to $2.1bn with earnings per share up 6% to $1.30, below forecasts of $1.40 a share.

    Films like "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" and "Zootopia" helped drive up revenue but cable subscribers fell.

    Disney's shares fell 6% in after hours trading. [/b ...[text shortened]... ut into the street and shoot them?

    What could be done (seriously) about this sort of madness?
    Yer just jealous because you're too broke and no account to play the stock market or buy mutual funds for retirement.
    Sitting around on government relief doesn't pay much does it ?
  10. The Catbird's Seat
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    11 May '16 20:09
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Do you even know what share prices are? Why would you be upset that the share prices fell? Why do you call people who sold the shares 'greedy bastards' if it is your claim that the shares are actually worth more? Just be quiet and go buy some Disney shares.
    Oh, I know what happened. You did buy shares, but you did so before the drop.

    If the share pri ...[text shortened]... is getting that through government which is in the pocket of Wall Street (and its equivalents).
    Perhaps you could explain what "tax trading" is, and how it would be better than individuals being able to invest by buying stock shares.
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    11 May '16 20:14
    Originally posted by quackquack
    Are you really so hateful that you feel it is OK to advocate dragging someone out into the street and shooting them because a stock price went down? Why is OK to to advocate shooting Wall Street people and not say African American children or Hillary Clinton supporters?
    Reasonable people would agree that no one should ever be the victim of vigilante ...[text shortened]... l illogical suggestions of violence against certain groups is completely accepted on this forum.
    The objection to there being losers on the stock market is aimed at blaming the winners. Everywhere else Americans hail winners and celebrate winning. There can be no winners, without losers, except in a rigged game, and then usually the winners didn't really win anything.
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    11 May '16 20:21
    Originally posted by bill718
    Shouldn't something be done about crap like this?
    Why can't we drag these greedy bastards out into the street and shoot them?

    I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if someone did shoot them.
    True banking reform (not Republican-style "reform" ) is way overdue.
  13. Cape Town
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    11 May '16 22:08
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Perhaps you could explain what "tax trading" is,
    Put a tax on trading transactions to discourage constant buying and selling - essentially gambling.
    The stock market was started and is supported supposedly as a tool to allow investment in businesses and other ventures. The problem is that it has evolved into something altogether different.
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    11 May '16 22:26
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Put a tax on trading transactions to discourage constant buying and selling - essentially gambling.
    The stock market was started and is supported supposedly as a tool to allow investment in businesses and other ventures. The problem is that it has evolved into something altogether different.
    Oh boy another tax, not on whether you made any money or not, but just because you invested in a company.
    Sounds like a helluva idea. That will really encourage growth and investment.
    Jebus I hate you.
    Just die. You suck.
  15. Germany
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    12 May '16 06:49
    Originally posted by FishHead111
    Oh boy another tax, not on whether you made any money or not, but just because you invested in a company.
    Sounds like a helluva idea. That will really encourage growth and investment.
    Jebus I hate you.
    Just die. You suck.
    Yeah, instead we need more high-frequency trading to encourage growth and investment, right?
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