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  1. 02 Jul '14 11:48 / 6 edits
    Please hold an open mind and watch the following youtubes.

    Australia introduced gun control in 1996. Tyranny is yet to happen. Other gun massacres are yet to happen as well

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA


    Australian "gun nut": (paraphrase)
    "At first i didn't want to give up my guns, but as time went on, i found the gun regulations to be quite manageable"
  2. 02 Jul '14 12:14
    Gun control aftermath:

    Less homicides by firearms.
    Less suicides by firearms.
    No mass shootings.


    i am sure it was just a coincidence, since every republican knows gun control doesn't work.
  3. 02 Jul '14 13:20
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    Please hold an open mind and watch the following youtubes.

    Australia introduced gun control in 1996. Tyranny is yet to happen. Other gun massacres are yet to happen as well

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA


    Australian "gun nut": (paraphrase)
    "At ...[text shortened]... ant to give up my guns, but as time went on, i found the gun regulations to be quite manageable"
    I love it that you tell other people to hold an open mind.
  4. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Jul '14 18:57
    Australian national defense strategy: Hope the USA saves us if war breaks out
  5. 02 Jul '14 19:10
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Australian national defense strategy: Hope the USA saves us if war breaks out
    What ethnocentric American ignorance!

    Australians have their own proud military traditions, ranging from Gallipoli
    to Tobruk and beyond. (John Monash, an Australian of German Jewish
    heritage, was one of the best Allied generals in the First World War.)
    Indeed, even some American military historians have written that man-for-man
    (the United States has much larger armed forces) the Australians were more
    effective than the Americans in jungle fighting in the Second World War.

    I would rather have an experienced division of tough 'Diggers' (Australians)
    than an American division except for the US Marines or paratroopers.
  6. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Jul '14 19:21
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    What ethnocentric American ignorance!

    Australians have their own proud military traditions, ranging from Gallipoli
    to Tobruk and beyond. (John Monash, an Australian of German Jewish
    heritage, was one of the best Allied generals in the First World War.)
    Indeed, even some American military historians have written that man-for-man
    (the United States h ...[text shortened]... gh 'Diggers' (Australians)
    than an American division except for the US Marines or paratroopers.
    How many Diggers does it take to prevent, say, a WWII Japanese amphibious assault supported by carriers, or perhaps a CHINESE attack? The Chinese will assign a ten man squad to neutralize every Digger the nation can produce.
  7. 02 Jul '14 19:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    How many Diggers does it take to prevent, say, a WWII Japanese amphibious assault supported by carriers, or perhaps a CHINESE attack? The Chinese will assign a ten man squad to neutralize every Digger the nation can produce.
    Let's consider geographical and military reality rather than puerile fantasy.

    In the Second World War, the Japanese never seriously considered invading
    and conquering Australia because it was beyond their resources to support
    such an invasion. Even if the Japanese could invade and grab a toehold
    in northern Australia, it would fulfill no lasting strategic aim.

    With regard to China invading Australia, AThousandYoung's usual Sinophobic
    'Yellow Peril' fantasies seem to be at play again. Apart from the reality that
    China has no intention of invading Australia (with which it does much trade),
    Australia is much too far away to be threatened by an amphibious invasion.
    China does not even have close to the amphibious warfare capability to invade
    and 'liberate' Taiwan (which is much closer than Australia to China).

    *If* the English Channel did not exist, then Napoleon's Grand Armee or
    Hitler's Wehrmacht *could* have conquered Great Britain. But that's a BIG 'If'.

    To sum up, Australia's not in imminent danger of being invaded by any nation.
    And if Australia were invaded, then having more people with civilian firearms
    would not make much difference in the military outcome.
  8. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Jul '14 19:36
    So you think their national defense strategy is "nobody will attack us because we're too far away"?
  9. 02 Jul '14 19:43
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    So you think their national defense strategy is "nobody will attack us because we're too far away"?
    In part. It's a reasonable way of thinking. In 2001 New Zealand's government
    decided to remove the RNZAF's air combat capability because it believed
    that remote New Zealand was in no danger and needed no such capability.
    Consequently, most of the RNZAF's air combat pilots then joined the RAAF
    or the RAF.
  10. 02 Jul '14 19:56
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Australian national defense strategy: Hope the USA saves us if war breaks out
    do you honestly believe this thread has ANYTHING to do with national defence? or you're just trolling?
  11. 02 Jul '14 19:59
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    What ethnocentric American ignorance!

    Australians have their own proud military traditions, ranging from Gallipoli
    to Tobruk and beyond. (John Monash, an Australian of German Jewish
    heritage, was one of the best Allied generals in the First World War.)
    Indeed, even some American military historians have written that man-for-man
    (the United States h ...[text shortened]... gh 'Diggers' (Australians)
    than an American division except for the US Marines or paratroopers.
    he did succeed in derailing the discussion though. very nice of you to help him
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Jul '14 20:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    do you honestly believe this thread has ANYTHING to do with national defence? or you're just trolling?
    Militias are an element of national defense. Look at Iraq or Libya. Fewer guns means an easier target for an aggressor.
  13. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    02 Jul '14 20:01
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    he did succeed in derailing the discussion though. very nice of you to help him
    I like kangaroos.
  14. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Jul '14 20:05
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    Gun control aftermath:

    Less homicides by firearms.
    Less suicides by firearms.
    No mass shootings.


    i am sure it was just a coincidence, since every republican knows gun control doesn't work.
    Why do so many gun control advocates need to use the qualifier "by firearms"?

    Were there less homicides?
    Were there less suicides?
    Were there fewer massacres?
  15. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    02 Jul '14 20:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    I like kangaroos.
    ITS COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!!

    http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/149674/its-coming-right-for-us