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  1. 06 Mar '10 06:33
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-terror-trial6-2010mar06,0,7217183.story

    White House reconsiders holding terror trials in civilian court
    Suspected Sept. 11 plotters may be tried before military tribunals after all, administration officials say. Holding the trials in civilian court is deemed 'politically untenable.'

    By Julian E. Barnes and Christi Parsons

    March 5, 2010 | 9:17 p.m.

    Reporting from Washington - The White House is considering an end to its effort to prosecute the suspected Sept. 11 plotters in a civilian court and may send them instead before military tribunals, in an apparent retreat from President Obama's pledge to overhaul the Bush administration's detention policies.

    Last year, the Obama administration announced it would try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and others in federal court in New York. That step came after Obama overhauled interrogation policies and ordered the shutdown of the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    But safety concerns about the trial have grown, and support for holding the trial in New York has eroded.

    "It is politically untenable," said one official, speaking on condition of anonymity because a decision had not been made. "No place wants to hold a trial."

    A return to military commissions, as the tribunals are known, would be a major concession to Republicans. And administration officials appear to be using the potential shift as a down payment on a political deal to speed the closure of the Guantanamo prison by allowing the federal government to purchase an Illinois prison to transfer detainees.

    A formal recommendation has not yet been made to Obama, and an administration official said a decision remains weeks away. Still, the idea, first reported in the Washington Post, represents a trial balloon to test how the administration's reversal would be received by liberals and conservatives.

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  2. 06 Mar '10 06:56 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-terror-trial6-2010mar06,0,7217183.story

    White House reconsiders holding terror trials in civilian court
    Suspected Sept. 11 plotters may be tried before military tribunals after all, administration officials say. Holding the trials in civilian court is deemed 'politically untenable.'

    By Julian E. Ba w the administration's reversal would be received by liberals and conservatives.

    ...
    In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "Da-op".
  3. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    06 Mar '10 07:25
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    Holding the trials in civilian court is deemed 'politically untenable.'
    With these presumably absolutely true words, there could scarcely be a clearer indictment of U.S. society's moral self-mutilation and loss of backbone since the Global War on Terror began in 2001.
  4. 06 Mar '10 14:15
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-terror-trial6-2010mar06,0,7217183.story

    White House reconsiders holding terror trials in civilian court
    Suspected Sept. 11 plotters may be tried before military tribunals after all, administration officials say. Holding the trials in civilian court is deemed 'politically untenable.'

    By Julian E. Ba ...[text shortened]... w the administration's reversal would be received by liberals and conservatives.

    ...
    If safety concerns are an issue - why not hold the trial in a sparsely populated part of the country? Maybe a place like Dodge City, Kansas. (Lots of symbolic value).
  5. 06 Mar '10 14:34
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    If safety concerns are an issue - why not hold the trial in a sparsely populated part of the country? Maybe a place like Dodge City, Kansas. (Lots of symbolic value).
    Better yet how about an island like....oh....I dunno.....Cuba.
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    06 Mar '10 15:08
    While it seems the idea of a trial of the 9/11 plotters in downtown NYC is dead (Wall Street thinks it would screw up business too much and this administration, like every recent one, is very responsive to their banker friends), I have seen little evidence that this administration intends to back down from the idea of trying these accused terrorists in criminal courts. There are plenty of places a trial could be held in the US where security concerns would be minimized.
  7. 07 Mar '10 03:59
    Originally posted by FMF
    With these presumably absolutely true words, there could scarcely be a clearer indictment of U.S. society's moral self-mutilation and loss of backbone since the Global War on Terror began in 2001.
    Loss of back bone,, your a joke, with the lack of spine....
  8. 07 Mar '10 04:08
    Originally posted by FMF
    With these presumably absolutely true words, there could scarcely be a clearer indictment of U.S. society's moral self-mutilation and loss of backbone since the Global War on Terror began in 2001.
    Awww, c'mon, dude.....we tried Nazis in a military court and justice was served...what's the difference...these jihadists were military combatants.....why do you love Islamofascists so much?....and when you answer, try answering in a manner like a normal every-day guy.....not some Leninist who just did a hit of LSD!!!
  9. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    07 Mar '10 04:29
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    Loss of back bone,, your a joke, with the lack of spine....
    Excellent point.
  10. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    07 Mar '10 04:30
    Originally posted by peanutpicker61
    why do you love Islamofascists so much?
    Wow. Penetrating question.
  11. 07 Mar '10 04:57
    Originally posted by FMF
    Wow. Penetrating question.
    Wow, dumbfounded response....from you....
  12. 09 Mar '10 00:52
    I say, we slacken up the rules of engagement, thus bringing fewer back to this hilarious sit-com.
    Then never ever put a US NAVY SEAL on trial.... for slapping a guy around.
  13. 09 Mar '10 00:56
    Originally posted by FMF
    With these presumably absolutely true words, there could scarcely be a clearer indictment of U.S. society's moral self-mutilation and loss of backbone since the Global War on Terror began in 2001.
    Here ya go, it's the US society's moral self mutilation.
    Just who the heck are you talking about? All or a few? Or are you just sputtering out words as they pop to mind.
  14. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    09 Mar '10 00:59
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    Here ya go, it's the US society's moral self mutilation.
    Just who the heck are you talking about? All or a few? Or are you just sputtering out words as they pop to mind.
    The U.K., France, Spain, Turkey, Indonesia and India - to name only a few - have all prosecuted terrorists in very high profile cases in recent years without deviating from or distorting the procedures or legitimacy of their legal systems. The way the U.S. has contorted itself in this regard? Chalk one up for Al-Qaeda.
  15. 09 Mar '10 01:19
    Originally posted by FMF
    With these presumably absolutely true words, there could scarcely be a clearer indictment of U.S. society's moral self-mutilation and loss of backbone since the Global War on Terror began in 2001.
    "With these presumably absolutely true words, there could scarcely be a clearer indictment of U.S. society's moral self-mutilation and loss of backbone since the Global War on Terror began in 2001."FMF

    Are you really an idiot or just play one on T.V. ?