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  1. 26 Jan '16 18:15 / 2 edits
    http://www.thepcgraveyard.com/2015/07/11/bernie-sanders-wife-could-face-prison-for-defrauding-vermont/#comment-1871

    The wife of Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders, Jane, was the president of a small college in Burlington, Vermont for about seven years. During her tenure as college president, she decided to double the size of the campus. To do that, the college would need to borrow 10 million dollars in debt in order to expand. The Daily Caller has received documents that show that the loans were fraudulent. In order to get the loan, the college had to prove they had confirmed commitments amounting to 2.27 million over a five year period.
    Sanders’ plan was to purchase 17 acres on the shore of Lake Champlain from the Archdiocese that needed to raise funds to pay off a sex abuse settlement. She planned to refurbish existing buildings that would allow the college to expand from 200 full time students to 400.
    Jane Sanders had to apply to Vermont Educational and Health Buildings Finance Agency (VEHBFA),an agency run by the state that issues the tax free bonds. People’s Bank had agreed to buy the bonds. The only catch at that point was proving the 2.27 million in incoming donations. Sanders gave them a list of 31 endowments totaling 2.6 million and she told them with unconfirmed donations and pledges, the number they were expecting was just about five million. Evidently, someone fudged the numbers because the actual total was just 1.3 million.
    That was a steep shortfall for a college an annual budget of only 4 million and no endowment at all. The college was taken to the brink of bankruptcy and Sanders resigned just before she would have been shown the door, but not before she got a very generous severance package. That package was worth $200,000 to Sanders.
    They should have known that the deal was based on erroneous figures. Because of the vast difference in the actual amount of commitments and the fact that their track record never showed such high donations, you would think some smart fellow would notice it.
    Actually, one smart fellow did. The VEHBFA had a fairly casual approach to their approvals, not even recording the voting. But the loan for Burlington College was quite different. One voter, Tom Pelham, demanded that his objection to the loan be recorded for proof in the future that he would not be held accountable for a loan he believed was financially insecure and that only the bank and the developer who would buy the property from the bank being the only winners.
    The problem is Vermont is a very rural state and knowing a politician of Bernie Sanders stature was the best way to get people to overlook trivial matters like the numbers not jiving with reality. It also didn’t hurt that real estate developer, Tony Pomerleau, was on board. He was known for success in developing retail shopping space, so the project was considered safe with both Sanders and Pomerleau on board.
    Sources say that if it is proven she intentionally inflated the numbers, she could be charged.
    From the Daily Caller:

    Christine Plunkett, Sanders’ successor as Burlington College president,explained this shift last summer, when she told a local TV station that after becoming president she was surprised to find that a million dollar “donation” was actually a bequest (Plunkett did not respond to TheDCNF’s interview request).
    The accountant who spoke with TheDCNF said such a mistake was egregious, because bequests are far less legally binding (wills can be changed or invalidated). Such bequests shouldn’t be counted as confirmed contributions, he said.
    Spilbor said that if Sanders or anybody else had knowingly garnished their confirmed donation figures, it would be “a pretty clear cut case” of fraud committed against the state.
    It will make entertaining reading in the future.
    No word on how this will affect Bernie’s run for president.
  2. 26 Jan '16 18:18 / 2 edits
    Is Bernie dirty enough to win the Oval Office?

    He just may be after all!
  3. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    26 Jan '16 18:27 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Is Bernie dirty enough to win the Oval Office?

    He just may be after all!
    I guess you HOPE she blows Bernie Sanders out of the race. It sounds to me like old Bernie was not privvy to the exact details, perhaps the wife neglected to tell the whole story to him. She got canned for it anyway so why beat a dead horse?

    Here is a wiki bit on Burlington College:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington_College

    It shows they apparently are using the land and it looks like they did not default on the loan but have gone through 4 presidents since Dr Sanders.

    If the loan is being paid off, don't see what kind of traction Republicans have to derail Bernie.
  4. 26 Jan '16 18:48
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I guess you HOPE she blows Bernie Sanders out of the race. It sounds to me like old Bernie was not privvy to the exact details, perhaps the wife neglected to tell the whole story to him. She got canned for it anyway so why beat a dead horse?

    Here is a wiki bit on Burlington College:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington_College

    It shows they app ...[text shortened]... f the loan is being paid off, don't see what kind of traction Republicans have to derail Bernie.
    I don't think many Republicans are a bit worried about Bernie.
  5. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    26 Jan '16 19:55
    Originally posted by normbenign
    I don't think many Republicans are a bit worried about Bernie.
    Unless they lose a lot more than the presidency, like both houses. THEN BS will ensue
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    26 Jan '16 23:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.thepcgraveyard.com/2015/07/11/bernie-sanders-wife-could-face-prison-for-defrauding-vermont/#comment-1871

    The wife of Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders, Jane, was the president of a small college in Burlington, Vermont for about seven years. During her tenure as college president, she decided to double the size of the campus. To do that, the colle ...[text shortened]... ntertaining reading in the future.
    No word on how this will affect Bernie’s run for president.
    The article is old news from last summer that shows nothing more than, at worst, Bernie Sanders' wife didn't do a particularly good job running a college. Since it's a whodey thread you can probably guess that the title is false and it is; Mrs. Sanders is not facing any charges at all.

    If personal smears of Bernie's wife is how the right wingers want to play it, fine; we'll see what the American People think of such a strategy.
  7. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    26 Jan '16 23:50
    Originally posted by normbenign
    I don't think many Republicans are a bit worried about Bernie.
    The last poll from NBC/Wall St. Journal taken about two weeks ago, has the Bern walloping Republican front runner Trump by 15 points nationally.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
  8. 27 Jan '16 01:38
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The article is old news from last summer that shows nothing more than, at worst, Bernie Sanders' wife didn't do a particularly good job running a college. Since it's a whodey thread you can probably guess that the title is false and it is; Mrs. Sanders is not facing any charges at all.

    If personal smears of Bernie's wife is how the right wingers want to play it, fine; we'll see what the American People think of such a strategy.
    Rich fat cats like that will never pay for their transgressions, assuming they have some.

    Bernie should just go back to writing about his rape fantasies.
  9. 27 Jan '16 01:46
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The last poll from NBC/Wall St. Journal taken about two weeks ago, has the Bern walloping Republican front runner Trump by 15 points nationally.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html
    Polls are polls. Experience says that they are often people who don't vote in elections, and in meaningless geographic areas.
  10. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    27 Jan '16 01:54
    Originally posted by whodey
    Rich fat cats like that will never pay for their transgressions, assuming they have some.

    Bernie should just go back to writing about his rape fantasies.
    What in the hell is wrong with you?

    Oh, yeah, you're a conservative.
  11. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    27 Jan '16 01:56 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Rich fat cats like that will never pay for their transgressions, assuming they have some.

    Bernie should just go back to writing about his rape fantasies.
    Bernie's net worth is below average for a person his age in the US though a bit more than twice the median:

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/summary.php?year=2014&cid=N00000528
    http://www.financialsamurai.com/the-average-net-worth-by-age-for-the-upper-middle-class/

    I'd say he is doing OK, but is hardly a "rich fat cat".

    Right wingers seem to be getting a little desperate in their attempts to smear him though I'm sure we'll be seeing stock footage of Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Castro, etc. etc. etc. in the general election campaign if the Bern gets the Dem nomination. We'll see if the People are swayed by such BS.
  12. 27 Jan '16 02:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Rich fat cats like that will never pay for their transgressions, assuming they have some.

    Bernie should just go back to writing about his rape fantasies.
    Bernie should just go back to writing about his rape fantasies.

    As has become apparent to just about everyone, you are just a dishonest snake, playing for smear value and deniability at the same time.

    “The Sanders situation was even sillier. Anyone who read the essay looking for a point, rather than a gaffe, could tell that a 30-year old amateur psychologist was wondering whether violent sexual fantasies were the result of shattered gender norms.”

    —http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-03/what-did-we-learn-from-the-overheated-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-story-
  13. 27 Jan '16 02:29
    Originally posted by vistesd to Whodey
    [b]Bernie should just go back to writing about his rape fantasies.

    As has become apparent to just about everyone, you are just a dishonest snake, playing for smear value and deniability at the same time.

    “The Sanders situation was even sillier. Anyone who read the essay looking for a point, rather than a gaffe, could tell that a 30-year o ...[text shortened]... ics/articles/2015-06-03/what-did-we-learn-from-the-overheated-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-story-[/b]
    I made a similar point in an earlier post to Whodey, who ignored it and kept on ranting.
    Some right-wing sexist men here might accuse me of being a 'rape apologist' on behalf of Bernie Sanders.
  14. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    27 Jan '16 05:09
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.thepcgraveyard.com/2015/07/11/bernie-sanders-wife-could-face-prison-for-defrauding-vermont/#comment-1871

    The wife of Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders, Jane, was the president of a small college in Burlington, Vermont for about seven years. During her tenure as college president, she decided to double the size of the campus. To do that, the colle ...[text shortened]... ntertaining reading in the future.
    No word on how this will affect Bernie’s run for president.
    What is the evidence that Bernie had something to do with it? I don't get it.
  15. 27 Jan '16 05:26 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What is the evidence that Bernie had something to do with it? I don't get it.
    First, whodey changes the headline to make it look like there’s an “It” that isn’t there.

    Then, whodey makes as if an essay that a young Bernie wrote is about his (Bernie’s) own “rape fantasies”, when it clearly isn’t.

    Then, whodey will either (a) deny that was his intention, or (b) change the subject to something else, or (c) make some general comment about "Dims" or "Progs" or whatever.

    The “point” is that whodey gets to deliberately defame someone, while being sufficiently clever with his verbiage that he can deny that was his intent. But whodey has done that now enough times that the game has become obvious.

    Whodey knows that he is deceitful, and he relies on the gullibility of people who, as an ethical principle, will always give “the benefit of the doubt” to his cleverly-worded slanders. I no longer care to play into his deceit.