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  1. The Catbird's Seat
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    05 May '15 16:08
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    A false dilemma (also called black-and-white thinking, bifurcation, denying a conjunct, the either–or fallacy, false dichotomy, fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses, the fallacy of false choice, the fallacy of the false alternative, or the fallacy of the excluded middle) is a type of informal fallacy that involves a situation in which only limited al ...[text shortened]... t there is at least one additional option.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
    That is a deflection.
  2. The Catbird's Seat
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    05 May '15 16:09
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Take the land first.
    The first rule of socialism. Take, Steal.
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    05 May '15 16:10
    Originally posted by normbenign
    The first rule of socialism. Take, Steal.
    First rule of socialism: You are not a citizen you are a subject. Welcome back to the Manor baby, hope you enjoy your perceived protection.
  4. The Catbird's Seat
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    05 May '15 16:10
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Appeal to tradition (also known as argumentum ad antiquitatem,[1] appeal to antiquity, or appeal to common practice) is a common fallacy in which a thesis is deemed correct on the basis that it is correlated with some past or present tradition. The appeal takes the form of "this is right because we've always done it this way."[2]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition
    Another deflection.
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    10 May '15 18:00
    Originally posted by Seitse
    The French or the Russian method?

    Pick one and explain why.
    You're welcome to micturate off to the totally democratic and free monarch-less Republic of Stal... oops, Putinist Russia, if you don't like it in the civilised world.
  6. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    10 May '15 18:02
    IRA bomb?
  7. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    10 May '15 20:49
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    1. That would be illegal.
    2. What kind of country would you have us be?
    3.Because we should totally be the kind of place that forcibly takes peoples stuff for no good reason.
    4.I mean, how many other rich people in the UK essentially pay 80% taxes.
    5.We are demonising these people for what reason now?
    1. Make it legal.
    2. A fair one.
    3. Force? The good reason is equality and fairness.
    4. None? But nobody else is that rich.
    5. Not demonising them. I would advocate leaving them as very rich
    people and if they want to stand for election as President good on them.

    How can we have differing opinions when we are the same religion and share the same beliefs?
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  8. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    10 May '15 20:51
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    No it's an appeal to practicality.

    Completely changing our current system of government and abolishing the monarchy
    for a system that is on net better than the one we have is a MASSIVE undertaking.

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    I agree with this argument but don't think it outweighs the question of equality.

    The "Birth Canal Lottery" is one I don't wish on future generations.
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    10 May '15 23:30
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    That would be illegal.

    What kind of country would you have us be?

    Because we should totally be the kind of place that forcibly takes peoples stuff for no good reason.

    I mean, how many other rich people in the UK essentially pay 80% taxes.

    We are demonising these people for what reason now?
    You are already the kind of country where the monarch robs the Church...that's where all that crown land came from.
  10. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    11 May '15 02:40
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    You are already the kind of country where the monarch robs the Church...that's where all that crown land came from.
    But the Church robbed the people!

    Surely it's time the people had it back?
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    11 May '15 02:58
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    But the Church robbed the people!

    Surely it's time the people had it back?
    Old people willed their estates to the Church...that's not robbery.
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    11 May '15 06:23
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Old people willed their estates to the Church....
    Where did you get that from??
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    11 May '15 12:20
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    But the Church robbed the people!

    Surely it's time the people had it back?
    Henry the VIII and his right hand man Thomas Cromwell robbed it all back.
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    11 May '15 20:011 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie to Wolfgang59
    Henry the VIII and his right hand man Thomas Cromwell robbed it all back.
    King Henry VIII cut off his 'right hand' when he had Thomas Cromwell beheaded in 1540.
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