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    16 Mar '17 08:402 edits
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    You are twisting the constituency system to suit your needs. SNP obtaining 95 percent of the seats isn't the same as having the support of 95 percent of Scots. In fact, they gave less the half that amount, and less than a majority as well. The SNP is a minority government!
    95 percent is not a majority??? in what universe is that a minority?

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    16 Mar '17 08:43
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    95 percent is not a minority, in what universe is that a minority?

    God save the queen, she needs saving!
    Okay now you are seriously being silly. What part of constituencies and support aren't the same thing don't you get?
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    16 Mar '17 08:45
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    95 percent is not a minority, in what universe is that a minority?

    God save the queen, she needs saving!
    95 percent of the consituencies! Not 95 percent support! It's kind of like Mark Rutte. Just because he got the most votes (roughly 20 percent) that doesn't mean he is the voice for the whole netherlands! 80 percent of people didn't vote for him!
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    16 Mar '17 08:481 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    Okay now you are seriously being silly. What part of constituencies and support aren't the same thing don't you get?
    SNP has in the Scottish parliament 63 of 129 seats, more than double that of its nearest rival. In what universe is this a minority?
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    16 Mar '17 08:491 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    95 percent of the consituencies! Not 95 percent support! It's kind of like Mark Rutte. Just because he got the most votes (roughly 20 percent) that doesn't mean he is the voice for the whole netherlands! 80 percent of people didn't vote for him!
    It doesn't matter, its enough to form a government.

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    16 Mar '17 08:501 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    95 percent is not a majority??? in what universe is that a minority?

    God save the queen, she needs saving!
    You don't seem to know the difference between Scottish seats at Westminster and the Scottish parliament. SNP holds 56/59 seats for Scotland in Westminster. In the Scottish parliament, they hold 63/129, less than half. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Parliament

    That is the meaning of minority government! Get it now?
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    16 Mar '17 08:511 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    You don't seem to know the difference between Scottish seats at Westminster and the Scottish parliament. SNP holds 56/59 seats for Scotland in Westminster. In the Scottish parliament, they hold 63/129, less that half. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Parliament

    That is the meaning of minority government! Get it now?
    I am fully aware of the fact and remain capable of rational thought. Its only very narrowly a minority government but its still more than twice the number of seats of their nearest rival, so no i dont think you do get it, the SNP have huge support in Scotland.

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    16 Mar '17 08:56
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    It doesn't matter, its enough to form a government.

    God save the queen, she needs saving.
    It's enough to form a governemnt that relies on support from other parties to pass legislation. The SNP needs support from the greens to fill the extra 2 seats to form 65, which doubled = 130 or one more than the amount of seats. As such if the SNP declines even a slight bit in the next local election they will not even have the power to call a referendum, because them plus the greens still won't be a majority.
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    16 Mar '17 08:58
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    I am fully aware of the fact and remain capable of rational thought. Its only very narrowly a minority government but its still more than twice the number of seats of their nearest rival, so no i dont think you do get it, the SNP have huge support in Scotland.

    God save the Queen she ain't no human being!
    Yes but the crucial fact Is that MOST people don't support them. It's not about whether or not they have support, they don't have a MAJORITY of support. Unionists make up a majority, no matter how the SNP twists this.
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    16 Mar '17 09:03
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    Yes but the crucial fact Is that MOST people don't support them. It's not about whether or not they have support, they don't have a MAJORITY of support. Unionists make up a majority, no matter how the SNP twists this.
    umm most people do, thats why they won 56/59 seats at the last general election and have 63/129 seats in the Scottish parliament more than twice their nearest rival. Unionists only narrowly won the referendum last time, dynamics have changed. Lets see the farmers who voted against leaving the UK do so again when they realise that there will be no European farming subsides.

    You need saving the same as the queen. God save the queen.
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    16 Mar '17 09:05
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    It's enough to form a governemnt that relies on support from other parties to pass legislation. The SNP needs support from the greens to fill the extra 2 seats to form 65, which doubled = 130 or one more than the amount of seats. As such if the SNP declines even a slight bit in the next local election they will not even have the power to call a referendum, because them plus the greens still won't be a majority.
    So what? they have the power now. Nicola can do what she wants because we gave her the power.

    God save the Queen I mean it man.
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    16 Mar '17 09:491 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    umm most people do, thats why they won 56/59 seats at the last general election and have 63/129 seats in the Scottish parliament more than twice their nearest rival. Unionists only narrowly won the referendum last time, dynamics have changed. Lets see the farmers who voted against leaving the UK do so again when they realise that there will be no European farming subsides.

    You need saving the same as the queen. God save the queen.
    Your failure to understand simple maths is mind boggling. 46.5 percent of the vote DOES NOT EQUAL A MAJORITY. I don't want to use block capitals but you seem to be really struggling to grasp this.
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    16 Mar '17 10:281 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    Your failure to understand simple maths is mind boggling. 46.5 percent of the vote DOES NOT EQUAL A MAJORITY. I don't want to use block capitals but you seem to be really struggling to grasp this.
    Your failure to understand that 45 percent of the popular vote does not equate to political minority is naive and disingenuous. It does not matter, all that matters is that it translates to the ability to form a government. At the last general election the Conservatives won it with a mere 36.9%. Taking your logic forward, if we can term it logic, that would mean that in political terms the conservatives are a minority and have no support in England and Wales. This is the very same sentiments you have expressed with regard to the SNP who hold an even larger share of the popular vote in Scotland. Clearly you are out of your mind and need saving.

    God save the queen and ash.
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    16 Mar '17 15:03
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    SNP won 56/59 seats at the last UK general election, in what way do they represent a minority.
    How many do you think they will have if Scotland leaves the Union?
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