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  1. 16 Apr '11 06:23
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110416/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate
  2. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    16 Apr '11 07:07
    As the article points out Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama's citizenship and his Hawaiian birth certificate has been made public.
  3. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    16 Apr '11 08:15
    Unlike your gender and sexual orientation.
  4. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    16 Apr '11 09:10
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110416/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate
    "If it can't be determined whether candidates who provided documents in place of their birth certificates are eligible to appear on the ballot, the secretary of state would be able to set up a committee to help determine whether the requirements have been met. The names of candidates can be kept off the ballot if the secretary of state doesn't believe the candidates met the citizenship requirement."

    I doubt the courts will allow grandstanding of this kind - where the incumbent U.S. President could be removed from a ballot according to what the partisan Arizona secretary of state "believes" or does not "believe" - to get very far. And mainstream Arizonans may well take a dim view of their state officials trying to reduce their democratic choice, which could give Obama a boost at the polls.
  5. 16 Apr '11 13:28
    His official birth certificate has never been released. If they'd release one, then this entire thing would just go away.
  6. 16 Apr '11 13:36
    Originally posted by Eladar
    His official birth certificate has never been released. If they'd release one, then this entire thing would just go away.
    His birth certificate has been verified. It will never be enough for some people, they'd just think of another reason for a conspiracy.
  7. 16 Apr '11 13:45
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    His birth certificate has been verified. It will never be enough for some people, they'd just think of another reason for a conspiracy.
    Verified behind closed doors doesn't cut it in a free country. Release the official document and everything goes away.
  8. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    16 Apr '11 13:50
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Verified behind closed doors doesn't cut it in a free country. Release the official document and everything goes away.
    Perhaps Obama doesn't want all the headless chickenry to "go away".
  9. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    16 Apr '11 13:56
    Sample conversation from the future:

    "See, he did provide the full birth certificate. So shut your hate-hole."
    "Yeah, five years later!"
    "So what?"
    "If he really didn't have anything to hide..."
    "But, but... that makes you sound slightly insane"
    "Plenty of time to fake it, eh? And if you look closely at the top right hand corner..."

    Haterz gonna hate.

    Most people of reasonable intelligence who demean themselves by associating themselves with the birthers don't really believe he was born outside the US. It's enough that it's indicative of a 'broader truth' - but it's even better than the "they spend all their Federal money on pitchforks to throw dead babies in to furnaces" example, because I suspect that the majority of those who do genuinely believe he was born outside the US at the moment would still do so if he produced the long form.
  10. 16 Apr '11 14:03
    Originally posted by DrKF
    Sample conversation from the future:

    "See, he did provide the full birth certificate. So shut your hate-hole."
    "Yeah, five years later!"
    "So what?"
    "If he really didn't have anything to hide..."
    "But, but... that makes you sound slightly insane"
    "Plenty of time to fake it, eh? And if you look closely at the top right hand corner..." ...[text shortened]... the US at the moment would still do so if he produced the long form.
    I think the answer is obvious. Obama was not really born at all. Instead, he is some kind of progressive Frankentonian creation, evidence by the scar on his head.

    http://theobamafile.com/_oddsnends/ObamasScar.htm
  11. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    16 Apr '11 14:03
    Originally posted by FMF
    Perhaps Obama doesn't want all the headless chickenry to "go away".
    He's probably holding out to lay it on Trump's podium during a debate.
  12. 16 Apr '11 14:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    He's probably holding out to lay it on Trump's podium during a debate.
    That Obama, he's a sly dog!!
  13. 16 Apr '11 14:23
    Even if he didn't have an official Hawaii birth certificate, how long would it take the right officials to come up with one?

    I mean really, if he had claimed to be born in Chicago he could have had that document in minutes.
  14. 16 Apr '11 14:26
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Even if he didn't have an official Hawaii birth certificate, how long would it take the right officials to come up with one?

    I mean really, if he had claimed to be born in Chicago he could have had that document in minutes.
    So while you claim this whole thing will "go away" if he would produce an "official birth certificate" you also claim that one can be faked easily. So what value would the "official birth certificate" be, then?
  15. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    16 Apr '11 14:28
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    It will never be enough for some people, they'd just think of another reason for a conspiracy.
    Boy, you called that one - and Eladar obliged.