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  1. 11 Oct '13 01:24
    "The Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself. We have become expert in how to provide ideological reinforcement to like-minded people, but devastatingly we have lost the ability to be persuasive with, or welcoming to, those who do not agree with us on every issue.” --The GOP Growth and Opportunity Report

    Can the GOP Survive as a White Nationalist Party?

    Results from the Republican Party’s own “Growth and Opportunity Project” made the situation explicitly clear – the GOP desperately needs to diversify beyond an aging white Southern and rural base. College Republicans issued an even more pointed assessment. Our policies make the party seem “closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned.”

    The percentage of voters who identify as Republicans has reached a historic low. Every analysis of voting trends indicates that the party must reach out across ethnic and racial lines to find new voters and expand our appeal in new geographies. So what have we [the GOP] done?

    Standing on the weakest, narrowest base in the party’s modern history we have shut down the government and threatened to trigger a default on the national debt. Under the influence of a new generation of Dixiecrats, we are resisting calls for reform and embracing an uncompromising Neo-Confederate policy agenda. As the government shuts down and the debt ceiling deadline looms, it is clear that the results of our post-election have been evaluated and the base has decided how they will respond. If the current, narrowed core of the party gets their way, we will find out whether the GOP can survive as a white nationalist party.

    Religious Right legend Phyllis Schlafly described the grassroots logic on the question of minority outreach in typically crude terms. She explained that Republicans have to harden their appeal to white voters because Hispanics lack “experience or knowledge of the whole idea of limited government.” She then explained that immigration will lead to border states becoming part of Mexico. Any softening of immigration policy would be “suicide for our country.”

    According to Schlafly, the future of the Republican Party is Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee. Unfortunately for the GOP and the country, it looks like she’s right.

    http://blog.chron.com/goplifer/2013/10/can-the-gop-survive-as-a-white-nationalist-party/
  2. 11 Oct '13 01:29
    Originally posted by moon1969
    "The Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself. We have become expert in how to provide ideological reinforcement to like-minded people, but devastatingly we have lost the ability to be persuasive with, or welcoming to, those who do not agree with us on every issue.” --The GOP Growth and Opportunity Report

    [quote][b]Can the GOP Survive as a ...[text shortened]... quote]
    http://blog.chron.com/goplifer/2013/10/can-the-gop-survive-as-a-white-nationalist-party/
    The GOP has never been a regional or demographic oriented party. They were fighting for racial equality when the Southern Democrats were still bound at the hip with the KKK.
  3. 11 Oct '13 01:31 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by normbenign
    The GOP has never been a regional or demographic oriented party. They were fighting for racial equality when the Southern Democrats were still bound at the hip with the KKK.
    Yeah, and those racist Southern Democrats of old you mention are now in the GOP. Indeed, they are are the backbone of the Republican Party.
  4. 11 Oct '13 01:35
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Yeah, and those racist Southern Democrats of old you mention are now in the GOP. Indeed, they are are the backbone of the Republican Party.
    No sir, most of them are dead, and were Democrats to the day they died.
  5. 11 Oct '13 01:50
    Originally posted by normbenign
    No sir, most of them are dead, and were Democrats to the day they died.
    Maybe so, but their racism and ideology lives on in the GOP.
  6. 11 Oct '13 01:51 / 1 edit
    Religious Right legend Phyllis Schlafly . . . explained that Republicans have to harden their appeal to white voters because Hispanics lack “experience or knowledge of the whole idea of limited government.” . . . According to Schlafly, the future of the Republican Party is Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee.
  7. 11 Oct '13 01:57
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Maybe so, but their racism and ideology lives on in the GOP.
    Robert Byrd of West Virginia was the last, a Democrat to his dying day.
  8. 11 Oct '13 01:59
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Robert Byrd of West Virginia was the last, a Democrat to his dying day.
    Who was a rare racist Democrat who actually renounced his racism and became one of the most liberal Senators in the history of the Senate.

    Is that all you got? Pointing to Robert Byrd or the old racist Democrat Party?
  9. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    11 Oct '13 04:31
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Religious Right legend Phyllis Schlafly . . . explained that Republicans have to harden their appeal to white voters because Hispanics lack “experience or knowledge of the whole idea of limited government.” . . . According to Schlafly, the future of the Republican Party is Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Mike Lee.
    Ted Cruz IS Hispanic...
  10. 11 Oct '13 04:33
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Ted Cruz IS Hispanic...
    I guess Schlafly made an exception for Cruz.
  11. 11 Oct '13 23:57
    Originally posted by normbenign
    No sir, most of them are dead, and were Democrats to the day they died.
    What, like Strom Thurmond? I guess he must have been lying about his party registration for his last nearly forty years in the Senate.
  12. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    11 Oct '13 23:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by moon1969
    "The Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself. We have become expert in how to provide ideological reinforcement to like-minded people, but devastatingly we have lost the ability to be persuasive with, or welcoming to, those who do not agree with us on every issue.” --The GOP Growth and Opportunity Report

    [quote][b]Can the GOP Survive as a ...[text shortened]... quote]
    http://blog.chron.com/goplifer/2013/10/can-the-gop-survive-as-a-white-nationalist-party/
    The answer to your question is "NO". But it's fun watching them try!
  13. 12 Oct '13 00:05
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Who was a rare racist Democrat who actually renounced his racism and became one of the most liberal Senators in the history of the Senate.

    Is that all you got? Pointing to Robert Byrd or the old racist Democrat Party?
    The modern Democratic party has as its basic tenant that ordinary people are incompetent and don't deserve self governance, never mind personal liberty. They believe we can't be trusted to decide what to eat, whether to smoke or not, how much water our toilet should use, and whether we can decide to purchase our own insurance.

    It is based on an elite and condescending view of people in general, a view which you repeatedly demonstrate.
  14. 12 Oct '13 00:07
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    What, like Strom Thurmond? I guess he must have been lying about his party registration for his last nearly forty years in the Senate.
    Strom Thurmond drastically altered his positions when changing parties, unlike Byrd who remained a segregationist and KKK member to his dying day.
  15. 12 Oct '13 00:08
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Ted Cruz IS Hispanic...
    So is Marco Rubio.