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  1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    20 Nov '17 10:29
    US women are dying in childbirth.
    More than women in Kazakhstan and about 50% higher than in EU.
    More than Iran.

    And African-American women die at THREE TIMES the rate.
    What is going on?
    Why?
  2. Standard membershavixmir
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    20 Nov '17 11:47
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    US women are dying in childbirth.
    More than women in Kazakhstan and about 50% higher than in EU.
    More than Iran.

    And African-American women die at THREE TIMES the rate.
    What is going on?
    Why?
    I’m sure God’s telling us something...
  3. Standard membervivify
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    20 Nov '17 16:10
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    US women are dying in childbirth.
    More than women in Kazakhstan and about 50% higher than in EU.
    More than Iran.

    And African-American women die at THREE TIMES the rate.
    What is going on?
    Why?
    Link?
  4. Behind the scenes
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    20 Nov '17 16:477 edits
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    US women are dying in childbirth.
    More than women in Kazakhstan and about 50% higher than in EU.
    More than Iran.

    And African-American women die at THREE TIMES the rate.
    What is going on?
    Why?
    I would suggest this has a great deal to do with America's (for profit) healthcare system. Many American women simply cannot afford proper medical treatment. But then I'm a left leaning Independent, therefore not a "Real American"

    Right wing's answer: Need Health Care? See your friendly Insurance man, and your local HMO, They'll take care of you. (Pardon me while I upchuck!!)

    If anyone wants to read about it, here's the link.

    https://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/528098789/u-s-has-the-worst-rate-of-maternal-deaths-in-the-developed-world
  5. Germany
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    20 Nov '17 17:18
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    US women are dying in childbirth.
    More than women in Kazakhstan and about 50% higher than in EU.
    More than Iran.

    And African-American women die at THREE TIMES the rate.
    What is going on?
    Why?
    Poor health care.

    Any more difficult questions?
  6. SubscriberWajoma
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    21 Nov '17 00:25
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Poor health care.

    Any more difficult questions?
    A pat and lazy answer from someone who has a woeful relationship with statistics. The numbers are disturbing and given the grave nature of what they measure they deserve better analysis than your flippant smarm.

    If there are countries with lesser healthcare but better child birth mortality stats that means less healthcare is better. You see how that works KN.
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    21 Nov '17 03:061 edit
    [In the U.S., preeclampsia is one of the four most common reasons for maternal death. On an average, there is approximately 1 maternal death for every 100,000 births, but for African American women, this number triples. African American women are three times more likely to die from preeclampsia and other childbirth-related issues.]

    [Preeclampsia is a pregnancy complication characterized by high blood pressure and signs of damage to another organ system, most often the liver and kidneys. Preeclampsia usually begins after 20 weeks of pregnancy in women whose blood pressure had been normal. Even a slight rise in blood pressure may be a sign of preeclampsia.]

    There are a number of studies that indicate that African American women have higher rates of obesity and diabetes compared with other women in the USA. Obesity is associated with high blood pressure and this combined with diabetes makes a mother more vulnerable to health risks during pregnancy.

    These are indications that Black African women need a much higher level of monitoring during pregnancy than those women who aren’t obese or diabetic. However studies indicate that they receive far lower levels of monitoring particularly in the first trimester of pregnancy.
  8. Zugzwang
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    21 Nov '17 03:131 edit
    Originally posted by @drewnogal
    [In the U.S., preeclampsia is one of the four most common reasons for maternal death. On an average, there is approximately 1 maternal death for every 100,000 births, but for African American women, this number triples. African American women are three times more likely to die from preeclampsia and other childbirth-related issues.]

    [Preeclampsia is a p ...[text shortened]... at they receive far lower levels of monitoring particularly in the first trimester of pregnancy.
    Death by preeclampsia was dramatized in an episode of the British television series 'Downton Abbey'.

    https://www.today.com/health/downton-abbey-death-preeclampsia-still-kills-today-1C8161892

    "'Downton Abbey' death: Preeclampsia still kills today."

    ""It's amazing that we don't have any better solutions," says Suttle. "The answer is still bed rest
    and have the baby. From 1920 to 2013, we don't have anything better. That's not so encouraging."

    'Pro-life' men like to pretend that forcing a woman to continue her unwanted pregnancy
    until giving birth must be easy, painless, and free of risks for her.
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