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  1. 19 Jan '16 22:43 / 4 edits
    Several writers (white men) here have attempted to demonize all Muslim men
    as likely rapists, blaming Islam in particular for recent sexual assaults in Cologne.

    http://www,dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3406994/Children-s-pastor-35-raped-two-teenage-girls-grooming-Facebook-Church-England-wanted-look-him.html

    Timothy Storey (white man), a children's pastor for the Church of England,
    allegedly groomed vulnerable girls from his congregation for sexual abuse.
    He allegedly bullied girls who had resisted submitting to his sexual
    demands, telling one girl that she "wasn't worth wasting a condom on".
    After he allegedly raped one girl (age 17), he attempted to start a 'threesome'
    in bed with her and her younger sister (age 14).

    When his alleged victims complained about Timothy Storey to the Church of
    England, the church authorities only mildly disciplined him, appearing to be more
    interested in protecting him and the church's reputation by avoiding a scandal.
    In an earlier statement, Timothy Storey claimed that the girls (ages 16-17)
    had consented to have sexual intercourse with him. Even if that's true,
    how would parents feel about a pastor seducing their teenage daughters?
    Wouldn't that constitute a violation of trust?

    Now I know that most writers here will rationalize this case like this:
    Even if Timothy Strorey's guilty of rape, he's only one individual and his
    crimes have nothing to do with the Church of England or Christianity.

    But if this trial were about a Muslim cleric who was accused of grooming and
    raping white girls, can one imagine how much outrage and hatred would
    be directed against not only him but also all Muslim men and Islam itself?

    I am well aware that many Islamic cultures (which are diverse) have major problems of sexism,
    misogyny, and violence toward women. But there's ample Western hypocrisy in condemning
    that while preferring to downplay or condone Western sexism, misogyny, and violence toward women.
  2. 19 Jan '16 22:45
    http://fjordman.blogspot.co.uk/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html
  3. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    19 Jan '16 23:21
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Several writers (white men) here have attempted to demonize all Muslim men
    as likely rapists, blaming Islam in particular for recent sexual assaults in Cologne.

    http://www,dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3406994/Children-s-pastor-35-raped-two-teenage-girls-grooming-Facebook-Church-England-wanted-look-him.html

    Timothy Storey (white man), a children's pa ...[text shortened]... hat while preferring to downplay or condone Western sexism, misogyny, and violence toward women.
    This may be true, but we must also remember that the white man is "the enemy" and it's important to make white men aware of these things at every opportunity, so they can occupy their rightful place as the reason of all the world's problems. I'm confident Duchess, if all white men were eliminated from the planet, the planet would be magically transformed into a utopian paradise. Now that this issue is settled, I'm going back to work!
  4. 20 Jan '16 01:57 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by bill718
    This may be true, but we must also remember that the white man is "the enemy" and it's important to make white men aware of these things at every opportunity, so they can occupy their rightful place as the reason of all the world's problems. I'm confident Duchess, if all white men were eliminated from the planet, the planet would be magically transformed into a utopian paradise. Now that this issue is settled, I'm going back to work!
    Bill718, a self-styled 'liberal' white man who has claimed to be terribly oppressed in the
    United States only because he's a white man, keeps showing that he's a racist troll.

    Evidently, Bill718 cares nothing about the teenage girls who allegedly were raped or
    at least were seduced by the Christian pastor whom they and their families had trusted.
  5. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    20 Jan '16 02:56
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Several writers (white men) here have attempted to demonize all Muslim men
    as likely rapists, blaming Islam in particular for recent sexual assaults in Cologne.

    http://www,dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3406994/Children-s-pastor-35-raped-two-teenage-girls-grooming-Facebook-Church-England-wanted-look-him.html

    Timothy Storey (white man), a children's pa ...[text shortened]... hat while preferring to downplay or condone Western sexism, misogyny, and violence toward women.
    Both girls are too young to give consent in the USA and it is a crime.
  6. 20 Jan '16 21:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Both girls are too young to give consent in the USA and it is a crime.
    In England the age of consent is 16 years. But it's illegal for a person who's at least
    18 years old in *a position of trust* to have sexual intercourse with a person less than 18 years old.
    So it seems to me that a Christian pastor should not be able to excuse having sexual
    intercourse with 16-17 year old girls in his congregation by claiming they had consented.
  7. 20 Jan '16 22:47
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    In England the age of consent is 16 years. But it's illegal for a person who's at least
    18 years old in *a position of trust* to have sexual intercourse with a person less than 18 years old.
    So it seems to me that a Christian pastor should not be able to excuse having sexual
    intercourse with 16-17 year old girls in his congregation by claiming they had consented.
    The religious leaders are some of the worst offenders. They rank only second to people in the foster programs. The offenders put themselves into these positions of being able to take advantage of children.
  8. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    20 Jan '16 23:12
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    The religious leaders are some of the worst offenders. They rank only second to people in the foster programs. The offenders put themselves into these positions of being able to take advantage of children.
    In our experience with foster parents, the issue we saw was abuse by power, not sexual, which of course happens. In Israel we know one woman who would chain one of her foster kids to a heat register for hours, denying them food and such. Eventually she was caught and her foster kids taken away. She was a real bitch.