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It’s 2014, and the soldier of the future returns to encounter a new and more imminent threat along the recently completed wall on the U.S./Mexico border. The Ghosts are more powerful with an upgraded Integrated Warfighter System (IWS) but will have only 72 hours to assess the threat and stop the rebels from reaching US soil. With a border that’s 1,900 miles long and an enemy that doesn’t play by the rules, this is a job for the U.S. military’s most elite fighting unit. This is a job for the Ghosts.

http://ghostrecon.us.ubi.com/graw2/info/index.php

So, how likely is this to happen?

Why fueling the anti-immigrant feeling in some sectors of the American society with games like this?

What's the need for something like this? It's already an associated state just like Puerto Rico!

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Originally posted by Seitse
Why fueling the anti-immigrant feeling in some sectors of the American society with games like this?
Simple. Because it sells.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Why fueling the anti-immigrant feeling in some sectors of the American society with games like this?

What's the need for something like this? It's already an associated state just like Puerto Rico!
The game is not tying into anti-immigrant feelings in the United States, but rather, anti-illegal immigrant feelings in the United States. A much more interesting solution would be to charge potential immigrants $50,000 apiece to legally immigrate to the United States:

http://www.nber.org/digest/feb07/w12315.html

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
The game is not tying into anti-immigrant feelings in the United States, but rather, anti-illegal immigrant feelings in the United States. A much more interesting solution would be to charge potential immigrants $50,000 apiece to legally immigrate to the United States:

http://www.nber.org/digest/feb07/w12315.html
Interesting point.

Would you agree with that? I mean, selling legit U.S. greencards?

By the way: Where is your star, man?

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Originally posted by Seitse

What's the need for something like this? It's already an associated state just like Puerto Rico!
Since when is mexico an associated state?

The closest thing I can think you mean is the rights granted by NAFTA, but even then, I have trouble seeing the stretch to consider it an associated state.

Still, I agree with you... they should have chosen a different setting. I imagine they wanted to leverage some of the work they'd already done on the previous game.

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Originally posted by joneschr
Since when is mexico an associated state?

The closest thing I can think you mean is the rights granted by NAFTA, but even then, I have trouble seeing the stretch to consider it an associated state.

Still, I agree with you... they should have chosen a different setting. I imagine they wanted to leverage some of the work they'd already done on the previous game.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, man, it was intended as a illustrative
figure, not literally.

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Yup, the two countries have to work a lot in cooperation and games
like that things are not helping the efforts made to (a) increase the
social standards and lowering the corruption in Mexico, (b) gaining
more tolerance and diversity in the U.S., and (c) strenghtening the
integration of the 3 economies and societies.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Interesting point.

Would you agree with that? I mean, selling legit U.S. greencards?

By the way: Where is your star, man?
It's a very interesting solution -- I'd much prefer that the United States did something like this rather than the current system we have with "undocumented workers," "anchor babies," and "chain immigration."

Regarding the other matter, the recurring billing for my credit card has me in RHP limbo for now.

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How does it feel to be a philanthropist?

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My people trully aprecciate your kind support, though, even if it's involuntary.

I know many of them are ilegally in the country and they cost you
money. But they also contribute, man, and do the work some
Americans don't want to... i.e., how clean was your neighborhood
McDonald's last time you went there?

An illegal alien did it.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
It's a very interesting solution -- I'd much prefer that the United States did something like this rather than the current system we have with "undocumented workers," "anchor babies," and "chain immigration."

Regarding the other matter, the recurring billing for my credit card has me in RHP limbo for now.
It sounds really interesting, I cannot deny it. But I am worried how
some of those people could get the money to buy the greencard.

They leave their country because it is corrupted, dirty, poor, and
lacking opportunities while a small elite gets fat and rich, i.e. Mexico.

The desperation to get the money, thus, would send more and more
to drugs, prostitution and crime.

Just a thought. Maybe USD$10,000 is enough.

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That is blind.

"I'd appreciate them not stealing money from me by using services they don't pay taxes for. "

Have you thought that maybe the EXTREMELY LOW wages they earn
are enought compensation for the taxes they don't pay? Plus, they
work because there is a U.S. citizen employing them. Do you want
those American employers out of the country as well?

One more thought: Where are the U.S. citizens willing to do those
jobs? The U.S. maybe doesn't need doctors but agricultural workers,
so those nice suit & tie, 'educated' aliens may not come because the
market simply does not require them right now.

One last one: Narrowing gangs and drugs to an 'illegal aliens' problem
is ignoring the million U.S. citizens who happily consume and deal
them, don't you think? It is a problem that cannot be tagged as
'ilegal aliens' problem.

Last one: What do you think about the idea that the U.S. is a country
of immigrants? And when and how drawing the line saying: 'Enough
immigrants'?

Edit. These are just thoughts. You are more than free to wish for your
country what you think it is best for it. It's yours, after all, not mine.
So my opinions are just that... opinions from a ex - ilegal who
lived in L.A. and did pro, white collar work yet didn't get legalized
because it was just.. well... cheaper for the company πŸ˜‰

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Originally posted by Seitse
That is blind.

"I'd appreciate them not stealing money from me by using services they don't pay taxes for. "

Have you thought that maybe the EXTREMELY LOW wages they earn
are enought compensation for the taxes they don't pay? Plus, they
work because there is a U.S. citizen employing them. Do you want
those American employers out of the country as we ...[text shortened]... didn't get legalized
because it was just.. well... cheaper for the company πŸ˜‰
No offense bud, but illegals aren't immigrants. They're invaders.

Now, the system for becoming a citizen here is very, very long and cumbersome, so I can understand when people don't jump over to the INS office and sign up. However, it IS their responsibility to begin the process ASAP.

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