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    10 Sep '17 19:27
    Alarmists have been claiming that deserts will expand because of global warming. Generally, a warmer climate has the opposite effect with increasing precipitation (see the Pliocene Epoch) worldwide. Now it seems that the higher CO2 levels are greening the deserts.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130708103521.htm
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    10 Sep '17 19:58
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    Alarmists have been claiming that deserts will expand because of global warming. Generally, a warmer climate has the opposite effect with increasing precipitation (see the Pliocene Epoch) worldwide. Now it seems that the higher CO2 levels are greening the deserts.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130708103521.htm
    you are not smart, dear.
    you would be better off the sooner you come to terms with this
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    10 Sep '17 20:47
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    Alarmists have been claiming that deserts will expand because of global warming. Generally, a warmer climate has the opposite effect with increasing precipitation (see the Pliocene Epoch) worldwide. Now it seems that the higher CO2 levels are greening the deserts.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130708103521.htm
    I suppose CO2 is going to help Make America Great Again, too, right?

    You're like the jackass standing before Congress with a snowball and saying, "Coldest winter on record! That doesn't sound like warming to me!"

    Idiots.
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    10 Sep '17 21:50
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    Alarmists have been claiming that deserts will expand because of global warming. Generally, a warmer climate has the opposite effect with increasing precipitation (see the Pliocene Epoch) worldwide. Now it seems that the higher CO2 levels are greening the deserts.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130708103521.htm
    Increased greening is only an initial effect of climate change. The alarm caused by climate change is the long term effects. This is like saying the effect of bees going extinct isn't a problem for humans, because it's resulted in nicer picnics. Obviously, the lack of plant pollination would be disastrous.

    Increased air temps can cause droughts and create deserts where there were none before, or expand already existing deserts. Continued climate change will lead to disastrous effects, despite any pleasant-sounding effects you choose to isolate to support your bias.
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    10 Sep '17 23:32
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    Alarmists have been claiming that deserts will expand because of global warming. Generally, a warmer climate has the opposite effect with increasing precipitation (see the Pliocene Epoch) worldwide. Now it seems that the higher CO2 levels are greening the deserts.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130708103521.htm
    I read that mean global temperatures have only risen 1C since the pre - industrial age, and already bad things are happening. I doesn't have to go up much more for really bad things to start happening. Lizards are going to do okay, and birds are quite heat - tolerant, but mammals aren't going to do so well. Whether we can reverse the rise is a moot point; what goes up does not necessarily go down, at least for a few hundred thousand years, but the world warming up is definitely not a good thing in the short - term, unless you're a lizard.
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    11 Sep '17 01:52
    Originally posted by @indonesia-phil
    I read that mean global temperatures have only risen 1C since the pre - industrial age, and already bad things are happening. I doesn't have to go up much more for really bad things to start happening. Lizards are going to do okay, and birds are quite heat - tolerant, but mammals aren't going to do so well. Whether we can reverse the rise is a moot p ...[text shortened]... the world warming up is definitely not a good thing in the short - term, unless you're a lizard.
    It warmer than this during the Middle Ages.
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    11 Sep '17 02:23
    Originally posted by @eladar
    It warmer than this during the Middle Ages.
    You were there, right?
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    11 Sep '17 08:531 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    It warmer than this during the Middle Ages.
    What do you think it means when your forests are on fire, your streets are underwater, and your buildings are collapsing?

    Because we have burned so much oil and gas and coal, we have put huge clouds of CO2 and methane in the air; because the structure of those molecules traps heat the planet has warmed; because the planet has warmed we can get heavier rainfalls, stronger winds, drier forests and fields. It’s not mysterious, not in any way. It’s not a run of bad luck.

    We’ve increased the temperature of the Earth a little more than 1C so far, which has been enough extra heat to account for the horrors we’re currently witnessing. And with the momentum built into the system, we’re going to go somewhere near 2C, no matter what we do. That will be considerably worse than where we are now, but maybe it will be expensively endurable.

    The problem is, our current business-as-usual trajectory takes us to a world that’s about 3.5C warmer. That is to say, even if we kept the promises we made at Paris (which Trump has already, of course, repudiated) we’re going to build a planet so hot that we can’t have civilisations.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/11/threat-climate-change-hurricane-harvey-irma-droughts
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    11 Sep '17 10:54
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    What do you think it means when your forests are on fire, your streets are underwater, and your buildings are collapsing?

    [quote]Because we have burned so much oil and gas and coal, we have put huge clouds of CO2 and methane in the air; because the structure of those molecules traps heat the planet has warmed; because the planet has warmed ...[text shortened]... w.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/11/threat-climate-change-hurricane-harvey-irma-droughts
    Funny, Irma was a cat 2 when it hit Naples. Harvey was so bad bevause it was kept in place over Houston by a cold front.

    Libtard policy of leaving dead wood in forests leads to big fires.
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    11 Sep '17 11:28
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Funny, Irma was a cat 2 when it hit Naples. Harvey was so bad bevause it was kept in place over Houston by a cold front.

    Libtard policy of leaving dead wood in forests leads to big fires.
    Scientists have predicted what would happen.

    It is happening.

    At some point your ability to rationalise away all those successful predictions establishes nothing other than how obtuse you are.

    Scientists can also explain what is happening. You can play word games to confuse the issues but it is essentially quite simple physics. Warmer oceans generate higher energy storms. There - not difficult. Low lying coastal areas will flood - follow the contour lines to see where it will happen. There - not difficult.
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    11 Sep '17 11:37
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    Scientists have predicted what would happen.

    It is happening.

    At some point your ability to rationalise away all those successful predictions establishes nothing other than how obtuse you are.

    Scientists can also explain what is happening. You can play word games to confuse the issues but it is essentially quite simple physics. Warmer oceans ge ...[text shortened]... areas will flood - follow the contour lines to see where it will happen. There - not difficult.
    Any idiot can predict hurricanes will happen.

    Any idiot can predict forest fires.

    They have always happened.
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    11 Sep '17 11:371 edit
    About 12 years ago Guam was hit by 5 typhoons in a row, shoulda heard the doom and gloomers "We're gonna fry, we're gonna fry, global warming (or climate change, sumthin like that) ieeee, ieee"

    You know what, they haven't had one since.
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    11 Sep '17 11:39
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    About 12 years ago Guam was hit by 5 typhoons in a row, shoulda heard the doom and gloomers "We're gonna fry, we're gonna fry, global warming (or climate change, sumthin like that) ieeee, ieee"

    You know what, they haven't had one since.
    Irma is no Charley nor is it an Andrew.
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    11 Sep '17 12:59
    Originally posted by @wajoma
    About 12 years ago Guam was hit by 5 typhoons in a row, shoulda heard the doom and gloomers "We're gonna fry, we're gonna fry, global warming (or climate change, sumthin like that) ieeee, ieee"

    You know what, they haven't had one since.
    ... and you conclude from that?
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    11 Sep '17 13:28
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Irma is no Charley nor is it an Andrew.
    Irma could be Andrew if only she decided to have the surgery.
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