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Standard memberZahlanzi
Debates 19 Jun '17 07:54
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    19 Jun '17 07:541 edit
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    A look at the US coal industry.
    It's John Olliver. If you don't want facts because they are delivered by Olliver, don't bother
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    19 Jun '17 08:19
    I just wanted to mention this wonderful piece of trivia, for all those allergic to John Oliver:

    The Kentucky Coal Mining Museum installed solar panels to power it in order to save money.
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    19 Jun '17 08:32
    I didn't bother.
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    21 Jun '17 06:06
    I tried to, but your video is "not available in my country".
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    21 Jun '17 12:221 edit
    Originally posted by Kewpie
    I tried to, but your video is "not available in my country".
    bommer, it's still available here.

    it's the main story of the june 18 episode for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) maybe Hbo Go has it? Otherwise, search for "Coal Last week tonight John oliver" or something like that on youtube, you should get some fragments here and there.
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    21 Jun '17 12:27
    Originally posted by Kewpie
    I tried to, but your video is "not available in my country".
    even better, read this:
    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/6/20/15831906/john-oliver-coal-miners

    John Oliver went after the coal industry on Sunday’s Last Week Tonight, and it was every bit as delightful as you would imagine.

    Oliver points out that the coal industry employs fewer people than JC Penny (“I didn’t even know JC Penny had employees anymore!&rdquo😉 but, to his credit, takes the suffering of coal communities seriously.

    In fact, he takes it so seriously that he dares to tell them the truth. Oliver does two things that are rare in mainstream media reports about coal. First, he cites research showing that competition from natural gas and renewables, not Obama regulations, is killing US coal.

    Second, he makes clear that the interests of coal miners and coal executives often diverge — that it’s coal CEOs, not coal miners, that Trump is close to. In fact, coal executives are in the process of trying to screw over retired miners as we speak.

    He then turns his sights on two of the most flamboyantly awful coal executives in recent history: former CEO Don Blankenship of Massey Energy and CEO Robert Murray of Murray Energy.

    The must-see bit comes from a rally Blankenship held in 2009. Who should appear on stage but Sean Hannity, who, immediately after touting “family and faith” ... hits on a “a really hot-lookin’ chick in the third row there.” It’s even creepier than it sounds. (Oliver: “In the course of his speech he referenced God, quoted Reagan, and engaged in sexual harassment — that man really is Fox News.&rdquo😉

    And then there’s a whole bit about Murray — who preemptively threatened to sue Oliver — that involves opposition to black lung regulations, lies about mine safety, and a talking squirrel that ... I don’t feel quite equipped to summarize.
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    21 Jun '17 12:301 edit
    For those that scoff at comedy skits as sources of information vox explains: (go to the link, it has sources for every claim)

    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/6/20/15831906/john-oliver-coal-miners

    "What every comedy skit needs: further reading (duh!)
    Anyway, Oliver’s segment makes references to all kinds of things that I[vox article's author] (and others at Vox) have written about. So if you want to go longer and deeper on the themes in his piece:

    Yes, US coal is in the midst of an irreversible decline. See here, here, and here.
    Oliver cites a study from the Columbia Center on Global Energy Policy, tracing the sources of coal’s woes. I dug into that study here.
    Oliver calls out EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt for lying about a recent surge in coal jobs. In fairness, that’s just one of many, many things Pruitt lies about.
    Oliver mentions that coal executives are getting bonuses even as they seek to jettison pension and health benefits owed to retired miners. It’s even more outrageous than he makes out — more on that here.
    Yes, it’s true, the Kentucky Coal Museum has installed solar panels on its roof! I covered that here.
    Yes, it’s true, Trump’s budget would slash assistance for a number of economic development programs targeted at Appalachia.
    Oliver mocks Blankenship, but honestly, he could easily devote a whole segment to Blankenship, who is one of the most comically malignant figures in recent American history — a mustache-twirling, union-busting, worker-screwing demagogue so outrageously unpleasant that an author of fiction would hesitate to write him. One of the first freelance pieces I ever wrote was called “Don Blankenship is an evil bastard,” and if anything, I understated the case. See also here, here, and here. Blankenship is out of jail, where he was serving time for mine safety violations, and (in true Trump-before-Trump fashion) is now angrily tweeting about the injustices he has faced. He calls himself a “political prisoner.” Seriously."
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    21 Jun '17 23:05
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw6RsUhw1Q8

    A look at the US coal industry.
    It's John Olliver. If you don't want facts because they are delivered by Olliver, don't bother
    I didn't bother, but I was thinking about getting an electric car to save the planet.
    Come to find out, do you know where the power comes from to recharge that battery?
    A Coal fired company, yikes! We need to go back to horses.
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    22 Jun '17 21:24
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    hehe that jackass actually sued John Oliver and HBO. this is gonna be fun.
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    22 Jun '17 21:29
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    I didn't bother, but I was thinking about getting an electric car to save the planet.
    Come to find out, do you know where the power comes from to recharge that battery?
    A Coal fired company, yikes! We need to go back to horses.
    I was thinking of turning Zahl into a horse so he could run me to work everyday.
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    22 Jun '17 22:29
    Originally posted by whodey
    I was thinking of turning Zahl into a horse so he could run me to work everyday.
    It would definitely help the planet, as long as the horse didn't fart too much.😵
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