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  1. 25 Oct '12 16:46
    Powell standing by Obama in 2012 presidential race

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a longtime Republican, is sticking with President Barack Obama in this year's election.

    He told "CBS This Morning" he respects fellow Republican Mitt Romney but thinks he's been vague on many issues.

    Powell said the president got the United States out of Iraq, has laid out a plan for leaving Afghanistan "and didn't get us into any new wars."

    He also praised Obama's economic performance, saying, that while difficult choices are ahead on taxes, spending and budgetary policies, "steadily, I think we've begun to come out of the dive and we're gaining altitude."

    Powell, a retired general, was also a White House national security adviser and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    Powell says he's still a Republican.

    http://www.chron.com/news/article/Powell-standing-by-Obama-in-2012-presidential-race-3980561.php
  2. 25 Oct '12 16:46
    This is great. Powell, an intelligent well-respected and objective general endorsing the President will swing some undecided voters in the battleground states to the President.

    The moderate Powell, who has always been pro-choice, for example, has been abandoned by the Republican party as the GOP goes far right off the fringe deep end. Moderate Republicans no longer have a home. Add in the "vagueness" of Romney positions, and it is not a surprise that Powell endorsed the moderate President Obama who is tough on national security and fair/smart on economic issues.
  3. 25 Oct '12 16:59 / 1 edit
    Any surprise?

    How black people aren't sticking with Obama? A black person voting for Romeny, that is the rare event.
  4. Standard member sasquatch672
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    25 Oct '12 17:19
    Originally posted by moon1969
    [quote][b]Powell standing by Obama in 2012 presidential race

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a longtime Republican, is sticking with President Barack Obama in this year's election.

    He told "CBS This Morning" he respects fellow Republican Mitt Romney but thinks he's been vague on many issues.

    Powell said the president g ...[text shortened]... ron.com/news/article/Powell-standing-by-Obama-in-2012-presidential-race-3980561.php[/b]
    I'm disappointed. But Colin Powell is a great American. Sad to say that I agree, he would probably not be welcomed by this version of the Republican Party, which is a terrible shame. He's precisely what we need. The wing nuts like Todd Akin and that other idiot - as reasoned and as thoughtful as they may believe their positions to be, foment anger and divisiveness in our own Party, to say nothing in the country. Then you've got clowns like Eric Cantor, who never met a reflective surface he didn't like.

    Colin Powell is a reasoned, measured man who rightfully disdains these unnecessary spectacles of histrionics and grandstanding by the fringes of either side. I only wish he would interpret the din of their voices as a clarion call for him to raise his own. I'd vote for him, regardless of party.
  5. 25 Oct '12 17:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Any surprise?

    How black people aren't sticking with Obama? A black person voting for Romeny, that is the rare event.
    You miss the point. It is a rare event for a black person to vote for a Republican presidential candidate the last 50 years. Since Johnson, the black vote has been 85+% for the Democrat candidate and those candidates except for President Obama were lily white as you know.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

    Further, on a related point, President Obama loses many more votes because of racial animus than he might gain from being black (the gain estimated at most to be 1 percentage point of the popular vote) considering that blacks already overwhelmingly vote for the Democrat candidate and that blacks make-up only 13% of the population.

    Check out this report (which is not an isolated report) concluding with respect to the 2008 election "that any votes Obama gained due to his race in the general election were not nearly enough to outweigh the cost of racial animus, meaning race was a large net negative for Obama."

    http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~sstephen/papers/RacialAnimusAndVotingSethStephensDavidowitz.pdf
  6. 25 Oct '12 18:14 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Any surprise?

    How black people aren't sticking with Obama? A black person voting for Romeny, that is the rare event.
    It is kind of surprise with Powell in 2012 because the President is more vulnerable now and more susceptible to criticism. Yet, Secretary of State Powell gave a very well-reasoned non-racial explanation of his renewed endorsement of the President, and that is consistent with his historical ideology. To assume his endorsement is based only on race merely because the general is black, is an assumption without any support or foundation, and in itself is racist.
  7. 25 Oct '12 18:26
    Colin Powell is sticking with his principles and ideology.

    The Republican party has become so fringe right-wing that moderate Republicans no longer have a home in the Republican party.

    Indeed, the Republican party has abandoned moderate Republicans like Powell. The Republican party has shifted so far to the radical right off the deep end.
  8. 26 Oct '12 01:26
    "The Republican party has become so fringe right-wing that moderate Republicans no longer have a home in the Republican party."

    Sad but true. Many Republicans of old would have nothing to do with today's lunatics that control the party.
  9. 26 Oct '12 16:19
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Any surprise?

    How black people aren't sticking with Obama? A black person voting for Romeny, that is the rare event.
    Did you actually type that? You're saying that Powell is supporting Obama because he's black?
  10. 26 Oct '12 16:35
    Originally posted by moon1969
    It is kind of surprise with Powell in 2012 because the President is more vulnerable now and more susceptible to criticism. Yet, Secretary of State Powell gave a very well-reasoned non-racial explanation of his renewed endorsement of the President, and that is consistent with his historical ideology. To assume his endorsement is based only on race merely b ...[text shortened]... e general is black, is an assumption without any support or foundation, and in itself is racist.
    He's black. It isn't shocking that he'd support Obama. Blacks supporting Obama is a given.

    Surprising is when a black does not support Obama.
  11. 26 Oct '12 16:37
    Wow! It looks like Eladar isn't the only one who says we should disregard Powell's endorsement because he's black. Sununu's already saying the same thing in public!

    And McCain is still very sore over Powell's endorsement of Obama last time around.

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/mccain-dumps-on-powell-again-he-got-us-into-iraq.php?ref=fpb

    He is right though. Powell did pretty much lie to the UN to get us into Iraq - at Pres. Bush's bidding.
  12. 26 Oct '12 20:03
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Wow! It looks like Eladar isn't the only one who says we should disregard Powell's endorsement because he's black. Sununu's already saying the same thing in public!

    And McCain is still very sore over Powell's endorsement of Obama last time around.

    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/mccain-dumps-on-powell-again-he-got-us-into-iraq.php?ref=fpb
    ...[text shortened]... ough. Powell did pretty much lie to the UN to get us into Iraq - at Pres. Bush's bidding.
    Why would anyone be upset about Powell endorsing Obama? It's only natural. It isn't like Powell is actually conservative. He's pretty moderate and a good soldier.
  13. Standard member Soothfast
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    26 Oct '12 21:07
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Why would anyone be upset about Powell endorsing Obama? It's only natural. It isn't like Powell is actually conservative. He's pretty moderate and a good soldier.
    I hope Powell comes to your house and kicks your ass. But then, he's too nice a guy to do that.
  14. 27 Oct '12 07:32
    Originally posted by Eladar
    He's black. It isn't shocking that he'd support Obama.
    Secretary of State Powell gave a very well-reasoned non-racial explanation of his renewed endorsement of the President, and that is consistent with his principles and historical ideology.

    To assert his endorsement is only based on race merely because the general is black, is an assertion without any support or foundation, and in itself is racist.
  15. 27 Oct '12 16:45
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    I hope Powell comes to your house and kicks your ass. But then, he's too nice a guy to do that.
    Why would he do that? Would you like to meet up with me and try to kick mine? Send me a pm and we'll see how close we live from each other.