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  1. 17 Aug '17 22:31
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/trump-neo-nazis-antifa-moral-equivalence-tweets-charlottesville

    "Trump: Confederate statue removals 'rip apart' American history:
    President likens statues of Confederate leaders to those of founding fathers."

    "Donald Trump on Thursday lamented the removal of “beautiful statues and monuments”
    commemorating the Confederacy, saying that he was “sad” to see America’s
    history and culture “ripped apart” by efforts to take down the memorials.

    Trump finds himself increasingly isolated after defending the white
    supremacists who led a march on Saturday to protest the removal of a
    statue of Confederate general Robert E Lee in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    In a string of morning tweets, Trump signaled that he was standing by his
    assertion that “both sides” were to blame for the bloody clashes that erupted.
    Those claims drew widespread condemnation from lawmakers who accused
    the president of inflaming racial tensions and drawing a moral equivalence
    between activists protesting racism and bigotry and white supremacists
    who carried signs with swastikas and chanted racist and antisemitic slurs."

    "On Thursday, House minority leader Nancy Pelosi called for the removal of
    the Confederate statues from the US Capitol and urged Republicans to
    join Democrats in signing legislation that would see the memorials moved."

    In fact, many more Confederate war memorials are being built in the USA.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/confederate-monuments-civil-war-history-trump

    "Changing history'? No – 32 Confederate monuments dedicated in past 17 years.
    Trump complains that efforts to take down Confederate memorials amount to
    altering the past, but numerous examples made their mark in recent decades."

    "Iowa, a Union state, has three Confederate monuments, all dedicated after 2000.
    The main monument there comprises three plaques on as many large
    rocks in Bloomfield, the northernmost point the Confederate army reached
    in the state. A Confederate lieutenant led 12 armed rangers there,
    dressed as Union soldiers, on a raid that killed three local people."

    "In total, there are about 1,500 symbols of the Confederacy in public spaces,
    according to the SPLC, which attempted to catalogue them all in 2016."

    "The symbols vary: 718 are monuments, while 109 are public schools
    named for Confederate leaders. A quarter of those schools have student
    populations that are majority black. Ten of the schools have student bodies
    that are 90% African American."

    "In 2009, Waverly, Missouri, dedicated a new bronze statue to Gen Joseph O Shelby,
    who was born to one of the wealthiest families in Kentucky and owned a
    700-acre plantation worked by slaves. At the end of the war, he refused
    to surrender and traveled instead to Mexico, leading 1,000 men to a colony
    for ex-Confederates. He eventually returned to his home in Missouri."
  2. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    18 Aug '17 00:17
    https://mic.com/articles/183889/[WORD TOO LONG].ADX5yUKB1

    The Robert E. Lee statue in Emancipation Park — which tiki-torch-carrying white supremacists rallied to protect over the weekend — was constructed between 1919 and 1924, at the tail end of a period at the beginning of the 1900s that saw a massive spike in the creation of similar Confederate monuments.

    Two factors played a significant role in the monuments’ proliferation: the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan, and the establishment of the United Daughters of the Confederacy and the Sons of Confederate Veterans at the turn of the century, according to Beirich.

    “These monuments are very much about the South in the early 20th century and what kind of a world they were trying to build,” Grace Elizabeth Hale, the Commonwealth Chair of American Studies and History at University of Virginia in Charlottesville, said by phone. “These were built as a kind of physical anchoring in the landscape of the culture of segregation and the creation of kind of founding myth and origin story for that culture and giving it a noble past.”

    In Charlottesville, that “anchoring” was spearheaded by Paul McIntire — a wealthy Virginia stockbroker and investor. A product of the “modern South,” Hale said, McIntire was an “elitist white supremacist” who bankrolled the city’s statues of Confederate leaders Lee and Stonewall Jackson in “celebration of what we’d now call white extremism.”
  3. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    18 Aug '17 11:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/trump-neo-nazis-antifa-moral-equivalence-tweets-charlottesville

    "Trump: Confederate statue removals 'rip apart' American history:
    President likens statues of Confederate leaders to those of founding fathers."

    "Donald Trump on Thursday lamented the removal of “beautiful statues and monuments”
    commemo ...[text shortened]... ng 1,000 men to a colony
    for ex-Confederates. He eventually returned to his home in Missouri."
    And in other news. Kate Upton is the Sports Illustrated cover girl 3rd year in a row!!
  4. 19 Aug '17 20:38
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/19/storm-americas-statues-history-whiteness

    "The storm around America's statues isn't about history. It's about whiteness.
    Confederate statues are part of a politics that trades on white fears and cultural wars
    that scapegoat black and brown people. It’s time to confront this."
    --Eddie Glaude Jr.

    American racism's also aimed (and more often condoned) at native 'Indians' and Asians,
    not only at the much more politically powerful and influential blacks and Latinos.

    "Historians and a host of others have recently written articles, appeared on news shows,
    and engaged in tweetstorms to show that these monuments have little, if anything, to do
    with the actual civil war or the so-called heroes of the Confederacy.

    An infographic from the Southern Poverty Law Center demonstrates that the majority of
    the monuments were built between 1910 and 1920 as Jim Crow became law throughout
    the south and, later, during the 1950s and 1960s as African Americans demanded full citizenship.

    These are monuments to white supremacy, and therein lies the connection with the
    “white supremacist thugs” we saw in Charlottesville. But Trump, like so many others, chooses
    to actively forget this history in order to preserve an illusory innocence that hides our national sins."

    "James Grossman, the executive director of the American Historical Association, gets it right.
    In getting rid of the Confederate monuments, “you’re not changing history,” he said.
    “You’re changing how we remember history.”"
  5. 19 Aug '17 21:47
    Tear them down, as It will change nothing.
    We will still be here, and Ready for our Southern Restitution.
    Expect strong Southern resistance, as We are organized and excited about our future as Southern Nationalists.
    If you seen footage of the incident in the heart of Virginia, you'll have noticed the white shields with the black St. Andrews Cross on them, They were in the L/S. We were also issued hard hats and riot gear. We have many financial supporters in the States and over seas. We have been preparing for this since 2010, and It has only just begun.
    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
  6. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    19 Aug '17 22:06
    Originally posted by @sergeantpmain
    Tear them down, as It will change nothing.
    We will still be here, and Ready for our Southern Restitution.
    Expect strong Southern resistance, as We are organized and excited about our future as Southern Nationalists.
    If you seen footage of the incident in the heart of Virginia, you'll have noticed the white shields with the black St. Andrews Cross ...[text shortened]... and It has only just begun.
    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
    Preparing for this since 2010 and this is what you have achieved? This is what makes you feel proud?

    What a depressing bunch you really are.

    You were outnumbered in Virginia and from the reactions it looks like you will be even more outnumbered in the future.
  7. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    20 Aug '17 02:17 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @sergeantpmain
    Tear them down, as It will change nothing.
    We will still be here, and Ready for our Southern Restitution.
    Expect strong Southern resistance, as We are organized and excited about our future as Southern Nationalists.
    If you seen footage of the incident in the heart of Virginia, you'll have noticed the white shields with the black St. Andrews Cross ...[text shortened]... and It has only just begun.
    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
    http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us%7Dsnatl.html

    St Andrew's Cross is white on blue technically. This one is a black saltire.

    Our flag is better.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Hispanic_People

    I want a statue of Don Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna with his boot on a bloody Jim Bowie at the Alamo.
  8. 20 Aug '17 03:51 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @sergeantpmain
    Tear them down, as It will change nothing.
    We will still be here, and Ready for our Southern Restitution.
    Expect strong Southern resistance, as We are organized and excited about our future as Southern Nationalists.
    If you seen footage of the incident in the heart of Virginia, you'll have noticed the white shields with the black St. Andrews Cross ...[text shortened]... and It has only just begun.
    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
    Like the last time?
  9. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    20 Aug '17 04:11
    Originally posted by @sergeantpmain
    Tear them down, as It will change nothing.
    We will still be here, and Ready for our Southern Restitution.
    Expect strong Southern resistance, as We are organized and excited about our future as Southern Nationalists.
    If you seen footage of the incident in the heart of Virginia, you'll have noticed the white shields with the black St. Andrews Cross ...[text shortened]... and It has only just begun.
    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
    Well, that's something you don't read everyday.

    You've been preparing for 7 years to run down a protester in a car?
    Damn, dude, ISIS must be strategically superior to you in every way.

    A morally sound nation?
    That's exactly as the South in the time of slavery, apartheid and the Klan is remembered!

    I could go on, but I'm planning on starting a kingdom on the moon.
  10. 20 Aug '17 04:11 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @sergeantpmain

    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
    I doubt it.
  11. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    21 Aug '17 08:47
    "You can't tear down without excavating what's buried underneath it".

    James Baldwin
  12. 21 Aug '17 10:08
    Originally posted by @sergeantpmain
    We will once again be a proud, ethically, and morally sound Nation.
    Oh yeah, how is that going to happen then?
  13. 23 Aug '17 19:41
    I was walking through the park one day when I heard an African American woman crying In hysterics yelling, "Call 911, call 911!!"

    I ran over to her and asked her what was the matter. She replied, "I saw a confederate statue"

    Sad.
  14. 23 Aug '17 19:43
    Originally posted by @whodey
    I was walking through the park one day when I heard an African American woman crying In hysterics yelling, "Call 911, call 911!!"

    I ran over to her and asked her what was the matter. She replied, "I saw a confederate statue"

    Sad.
    The racist troll Whodey fabricates another incident to support his campaign of hate.