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  1. Standard membervivify
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    11 Apr '15 02:491 edit
    Video shows Officer Michael Slager, who is white, firing eight shots at 50-year-old Walter Scott as Scott has his back to him and is running away. Scott, who was unarmed, was struck five times.

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    http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2015/04/08/25455401/
  2. Subscriberdivegeester
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    11 Apr '15 06:24
    Originally posted by vivify
    Video shows Officer Michael Slager, who is white, firing eight shots at 50-year-old Walter Scott as Scott has his back to him and is running away. Scott, who was unarmed, was struck five times.

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    http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2015/04/08/25455401/
    The debate is now about what punishment Slager will get.
  3. Standard membershavixmir
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    11 Apr '15 09:59
    Why should he get punished?
    It's obviously hunt-the-nigger-season in the US.

    That, by the way, was sarcasm.
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    11 Apr '15 10:34
    More from California:

    California sheriff deputies suspended over beating video
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32259709
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    11 Apr '15 10:35
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    That, by the way, was sarcasm.
    Not funny though, was it.
  6. Standard membershavixmir
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    11 Apr '15 11:00
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Not funny though, was it.
    It matches the deed in its callous, cold existence, though.

    Doesn't it.
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    11 Apr '15 12:25
    Originally posted by divegeester
    The debate is now about what punishment Slager will get.
    He should be tried for murder, it was after all a premeditated act, was it not?
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    11 Apr '15 12:28
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Why should he get punished?
    It's obviously hunt-the-nigger-season in the US.

    That, by the way, was sarcasm.
    There have been four thousand lynchings in the United states since the abolition of slavery many of them perpetrated on a Sunday after the perpetrators had attended church.
  9. Standard membervivify
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    11 Apr '15 12:56
    Unlike with the Eric Garner case (a black man killed by a cop on video) this cop was actually arrested and is now awaiting trial. However, it begs the question of how this cop could so casually and calmly shot a fleeing man who posed zero threat to the officer's safety.

    Do posters here believe that this is just another "isolated innocent"? Or do we have enough evidence that blacks are unfairly treated by law enforcement?
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    11 Apr '15 13:24
    Originally posted by vivify
    Do posters here believe that this is just another "isolated innocent"? Or do we have enough evidence that blacks are unfairly treated by law enforcement?
    Before you jump to the conclusion that he was shot because he was black, I think you need to ask what the current policy is for the use of fire arms by police in the US when dealing with suspects. Do the police believe that shooting a fleeing suspect whatever his/her race is acceptable behaviour?
  11. Standard membervivify
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    11 Apr '15 13:361 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Before you jump to the conclusion that he was shot because he was black, I think you need to ask what the current policy is for the use of fire arms by police in the US when dealing with suspects. Do the police believe that shooting a fleeing suspect whatever his/her race is acceptable behaviour?
    No, it's not acceptable, which is why the cop is locked up right now.
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    11 Apr '15 13:40
    Originally posted by vivify
    No, it's not acceptable, which is why the cop is locked up right now.
    But do they believe it is acceptable? It seems to be pretty common behaviour. Do they think they can get away with it when it isn't caught on video or if the suspects relatives are too poor to afford lawyers?
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    11 Apr '15 13:44
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    But do they believe it is acceptable? It seems to be pretty common behaviour. Do they think they can get away with it when it isn't caught on video or if the suspects relatives are too poor to afford lawyers?
    Just curious as to what you think is happening....

    Of all cases in a year where a policeman arrests someone, do you think it is more common for the police to be the criminal and the suspect to be innocent, or is it more common for the policeman to be correctly doing his job?
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    11 Apr '15 13:46
    Originally posted by vivify
    Unlike with the Eric Garner case (a black man killed by a cop on video) this cop was actually arrested and is now awaiting trial. However, it begs the question of how this cop could so casually and calmly shot a fleeing man who posed zero threat to the officer's safety.

    Do posters here believe that this is just another "isolated innocent"? Or do we have enough evidence that blacks are unfairly treated by law enforcement?
    I don't believe this was a isolated incident but rather a all too common one. That being said, I feel the "race" of the cop and the victim is irrelevant. That's not the issue . But being made one by race baiters IMO.

    The headline should read: " Cop shot unarmed man in the back. "

    The issue IS many cops especially young ones are out of control and on a power trip. Looking at many of them it is obvious they are on steroids (roid rage) and are just looking for a excuse to crack skulls or shoot somebody they view as a derelict.
    I feel this is the only reason they joined the force in the first place. It certainly was not to "protect and serve" the public.

    The video link given by divegester is a example of this.

    The problem is a cop problem. A ever growing police state problem. Many American citizens are being victimized by the police, beaten, murdered set up w/false evidence, etc regardless of their race.

    Making this a race issue is a distraction and does not address the real issue at hand.
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    11 Apr '15 13:54
    Originally posted by vivify
    Unlike with the Eric Garner case (a black man killed by a cop on video) this cop was actually arrested and is now awaiting trial. However, it begs the question of how this cop could so casually and calmly shot a fleeing man who posed zero threat to the officer's safety.

    Do posters here believe that this is just another "isolated innocent"? Or do we have enough evidence that blacks are unfairly treated by law enforcement?
    There are plenty of cops who are jerks and on a power trip and will lie about things afterwards. I have first hand experience with that and know others who have as well.

    But even most jerks don't kill someone in cold blood. I've known plenty of jerks who aren't police officers, and I seriously doubt any of them would be capable of cold blooded murder.

    Shooting a fleeing/unarmed/non-violent suspect who never engaged in threatening behavior in the back, I believe is rare.
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