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  1. Zugzwang
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    10 Aug '17 22:511 edit
    Putin seems popular among right-wing (particularly religious) Americans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/10/alabama-senate-race-roy-moore-vladimir-putin-russia

    "'Maybe Putin is right': Republican Senate frontrunner on Russian leader:
    Roy Moore, a former Alabama judge and top contender to fill Jeff Sessions’
    vacant seat, said the Russian leader could be ‘more akin to me than I know’."

    "There is growing concern among Republican elites about the rising
    popularity of Putin among some conservatives. The party’s leaders
    remain steadfastly opposed to Putin, and recently forced Trump to
    reluctantly pass new sanctions against Russia. But the rank-and-file’s
    stance appears to be softening; polls suggest that Putin’s favorability
    ratings among Republicans have steadily increased in recent years.

    Trump’s repeated declarations of admiration for Putin provide some explanation
    for the trend, but others have pointed out that the growing affinity between the
    evangelical wing of the GOP and Putin’s Russin has in fact been brewing of several years.

    The Russian leader has rebranded himself a traditionalist during his third term,
    and his clampdown against what he calls “homosexual propaganda” in
    schools has been met with approval among some Christians in the US."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/aug/10/vladimir-putin-republican-popularity-alabama-senate-primary

    "The perfect Alabama candidate': Republicans warm to Vladimir Putin – video"

    "Vladimir Putin’s favorability ratings have tripled among Americans in
    recent years – and the polls say he’s most popular among Republicans."

    As I recall, some right-wing white American writers here have praised Putin as a strong leader.
    To the right-wing white Americans here, would you vote for Putin if he were a US citizen?
  2. Behind the scenes
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    10 Aug '17 23:361 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Putin seems popular among right-wing (particularly religious) Americans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/10/alabama-senate-race-roy-moore-vladimir-putin-russia

    "'Maybe Putin is right': Republican Senate frontrunner on Russian leader:
    Roy Moore, a former Alabama judge and top contender to fill Jeff Sessions’
    vacant seat, said the Russ ...[text shortened]... ader.
    To the right-wing white Americans here, would you vote for Putin if he were a US citizen?
    It's the white man's fault. Everything is ALWAYS the white man's fault! 😠
  3. Zugzwang
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    10 Aug '17 23:43
    Originally posted by @mchill
    It's the white man's fault. Everything is ALWAYS the white man's fault! 😠
    Most white men and most white women voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 US election.
    Only a small minority of non-white people voted for Donald Trump.
    But Mchill would like to deny that white people are responsible for electing Donald Trump.
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    11 Aug '17 06:26
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Could Putin be a Successful American Politician?
    Isn't he already?

    He made Trump win the election.
    He has Trump as his marionette.
    He's creating chaos in the White House.

    As I see it - Russia has more power in the USA than ever.
    Putin is clever. Trump is not.
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    11 Aug '17 06:41
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Putin seems popular among right-wing (particularly religious) Americans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/10/alabama-senate-race-roy-moore-vladimir-putin-russia

    "'Maybe Putin is right': Republican Senate frontrunner on Russian leader:
    Roy Moore, a former Alabama judge and top contender to fill Jeff Sessions’
    vacant seat, said the Russ ...[text shortened]... ader.
    To the right-wing white Americans here, would you vote for Putin if he were a US citizen?
    Fookin A. Clean out some of the liberal trash in this country. How do ya like me now?😛
  6. Zugzwang
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    11 Aug '17 17:081 edit
    Originally posted by @kquinn909
    Fookin A. Clean out some of the liberal trash in this country. How do ya like me now?😛
    I have no objection to Kquinn909 declaring his support of Putin.
    Will other right-wing white Americans be candid enough to do the same?

    Indeed, I have more respect for people who are honest enough to admit their racism than
    for clearly racist people who keep doing their dishonest utmost to deny their racism.
  7. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    11 Aug '17 20:33
    His Orthodox religion might hurt him but JFK got elected despite being Catholic. Converting to Protestantism couldn't hurt though.
  8. Zugzwang
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    11 Aug '17 20:431 edit
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    His Orthodox religion might hurt him but JFK got elected despite being Catholic.
    Converting to Protestantism couldn't hurt though.
    In the interest of clarity, my question was about Putin as a 'successful American politician',
    not necessarily about his prospects of being elected as the President.

    If Bernie Sanders (a secular Jew) became a Protestant, would that improve his electoral chances?
    I doubt it.
  9. Subscriberlemondrop
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    11 Aug '17 23:49
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Most white men and most white women voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 US election.
    Only a small minority of non-white people voted for Donald Trump.
    But Mchill would like to deny that white people are responsible for electing Donald Trump.
    most white men and most white women did not vote for Trump
    he lost the popular vote by over 3 million
  10. Zugzwang
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    12 Aug '17 00:371 edit
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    most white men and most white women did not vote for Trump
    he lost the popular vote by over 3 million
    Lemondrop's wrong and shows abysmal 'reasoning'.
    Exit polls found that most white men and most white women voted for Donald Trump.
    Most Americans did not vote for Donald Trump, given that many Americans are not white.
    Non-white Americans voted overwhelmingly against Donald Trump.
    .
  11. Subscriberlemondrop
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    12 Aug '17 02:46
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Lemondrop's wrong and shows abysmal 'reasoning'.
    Exit polls found that most white men and most white women voted for Donald Trump.
    Most Americans did not vote for Donald Trump, given that many Americans are not white.
    Non-white Americans voted overwhelmingly against Donald Trump.
    .
    lemondrop IS not bright
    you are absolutely
    RIGHT
  12. SubscriberSuzianne
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    13 Aug '17 15:352 edits
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Lemondrop's wrong and shows abysmal 'reasoning'.
    Exit polls found that most white men and most white women voted for Donald Trump.
    Most Americans did not vote for Donald Trump, given that many Americans are not white.
    Non-white Americans voted overwhelmingly against Donald Trump.
    .
    You mean those who got to actually vote, without being forced to fill out a "provisional" ballot. Btw, NONE of all the "provisional" ballots filled out by mainly non-white voters were counted, NONE of them. That's where Hillary's "landslide" went, right in the trash.
  13. Zugzwang
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    15 Aug '17 02:151 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    You mean those who got to actually vote, without being forced to fill out a "provisional" ballot. Btw, NONE of all the "provisional" ballots filled out by mainly non-white voters were counted, NONE of them. That's where Hillary's "landslide" went, right in the trash.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_ballot

    "At their best, provisional ballots provide voters who would otherwise be turned away
    from the polls to have their votes counted, but at their worst, the offer of a provisional
    ballot can be "a way to brush off troublesome voters by letting them think they have voted."
    It is possible for parties to force certain voters to cast provisional ballots so they can
    suppress the vote total of an opponent being counted on election night."

    Can Suzianne cite an authoritative source to support her claim that 'NONE' of the
    provisional ballots were counted in the 2016 US election?
  14. SubscriberWajoma
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    15 Aug '17 02:54
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    You mean those who got to actually vote, without being forced to fill out a "provisional" ballot. Btw, NONE of all the "provisional" ballots filled out by mainly non-white voters were counted, NONE of them. That's where Hillary's "landslide" went, right in the trash.
    Seems reasonable, that's where hilliary was already.
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