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    19 Mar '18 22:381 edit
    Nixon, who was born in New York and starred in one of the quintessential NYC-based TV series, was rumored to run in the gubernatorial race for months. Liberal groups reportedly had urged her to run, which she addressed during an appearance on the Today show last August. She posted her official announcement to Twitter on Monday.



    Normally I think this would be a waste of time, but given the growing anti Trump mood, she might just succeed. Who knows, New York might have 2 first ladies! 😀


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cynthia-nixon-officially-announces-run-for-ny-governor/ar-BBKrbRy?ocid=spartandhp
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    20 Mar '18 01:51
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Nixon, who was born in New York and starred in one of the quintessential NYC-based TV series, was rumored to run in the gubernatorial race for months. Liberal groups reportedly had urged her to run, which she addressed during an appearance on the Today show last August. She posted her official announcement to Twitter on Monday.



    Normally I think this w ...[text shortened]... /news/politics/cynthia-nixon-officially-announces-run-for-ny-governor/ar-BBKrbRy?ocid=spartandhp
    😞
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    20 Mar '18 02:051 edit
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    😞
    Now, now....Ronald Reagan Jr. turned out to be the opposite of his father. Maybe---just maybe---she will be different from her infamous relative.
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    20 Mar '18 02:20
    Originally posted by @vivify
    Now, now....Ronald Reagan Jr. turned out to be the opposite of his father. Maybe---just maybe---she will be different from her famous relative.
    No qualifications except being on a TV show and makes her candidacy announcement on Twitter.

    I repeat: 😞

    Surely there is no shortage of liberal Democrats in the State of New York. If they really find Governor Cuomo unacceptable it shouldn't be hard to find a qualified candidate to stand against him rather than repeating Republican freak show tactics.
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    20 Mar '18 02:45
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    No qualifications except being on a TV show and makes her candidacy announcement on Twitter.

    I repeat: 😞

    Surely there is no shortage of liberal Democrats in the State of New York. If they really find Governor Cuomo unacceptable it shouldn't be hard to find a qualified candidate to stand against him rather than repeating Republican freak show tactics.
    Okay, that's valid. I though it was the Nixon name you taking issue with.
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    20 Mar '18 04:12
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    No qualifications except being on a TV show and makes her candidacy announcement on Twitter.

    I repeat: 😞

    Surely there is no shortage of liberal Democrats in the State of New York. If they really find Governor Cuomo unacceptable it shouldn't be hard to find a qualified candidate to stand against him rather than repeating Republican freak show tactics.
    The pity is that in the future being on a tv show will be the only qualification needed for public office.
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    20 Mar '18 15:221 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    The pity is that in the future being on a tv show will be the [b]only qualification needed for public office.[/b]
    So far, we've had a reality show star, two movie stars, a 60's TV icon, an SNL cast member, an NBA great, and a wrestling star hold public office. Two were presidents, two were senators, and two were governors.
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    20 Mar '18 16:58
    Originally posted by @vivify
    So far, we've had a reality show star, two movie stars, a 60's TV icon, an SNL cast member, an NBA great, and a wrestling star hold public office. Two were presidents, two were senators, and two were governors.
    Reagan and the second dude?
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    20 Mar '18 17:243 edits
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Reagan and the second dude?
    Reagan, Schwarzenegger - Movie Stars; President and governor, respectively
    Trump - Reality Show S
    Sonny Bono - 60's TV (and music) icon, became a mayor then elected to House of Reps
    Bill Bradley - Senator and NBA Great
    Al Franken - SNL Cast Member and Senator
    Jesse Ventura - WWE Wrestler and Governor

    There may be more, but those are the ones I can think of.
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    21 Mar '18 13:25
    Originally posted by @vivify
    Reagan, Schwarzenegger - Movie Stars; President and governor, respectively
    Trump - Reality Show S
    Sonny Bono - 60's TV (and music) icon, became a mayor then elected to House of Reps
    Bill Bradley - Senator and NBA Great
    Al Franken - SNL Cast Member and Senator
    Jesse Ventura - WWE Wrestler and Governor

    There may be more, but those are the ones I can think of.
    I don't know why this should be surprising. Entertainment and politics are effectively the same line of work... lying to the public. To the victor go the spoils.
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    21 Mar '18 16:09
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    No qualifications except being on a TV show and makes her candidacy announcement on Twitter.

    I repeat: 😞

    Surely there is no shortage of liberal Democrats in the State of New York. If they really find Governor Cuomo unacceptable it shouldn't be hard to find a qualified candidate to stand against him rather than repeating Republican freak show tactics.
    great
    go find one.

    get one who is against corporate money. get one who is a progressive that actually cares about the people. get one who is more qualified than Cynthia Nixon that has the same or a better agenda and people who support her might vote for your fictional candidate instead. Cynthia Nixon herself might vote for that candidate.
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    21 Mar '18 17:47
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    No qualifications except being on a TV show and makes her candidacy announcement on Twitter.

    I repeat: 😞

    Surely there is no shortage of liberal Democrats in the State of New York. If they really find Governor Cuomo unacceptable it shouldn't be hard to find a qualified candidate to stand against him rather than repeating Republican freak show tactics.
    I want to agree that it's past time where celebrity via the TV screen is sufficient qualification for high political office. To be fair, this is a losing argument and always has been.

    Still, it's not a simple matter to dethrone Cuomo who, in my opinion, is useless. New Yorkers have a terrible time admitting just how bad their state government is. Corrupt is an overworked word, but it fits here. Business as usual will get Cuomo reelected. Let's just keep him out of the White House conversation...

    Cynthia Nixon has nothing to recommend her.
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    22 Mar '18 01:33
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    great
    go find one.

    get one who is against corporate money. get one who is a progressive that actually cares about the people. get one who is more qualified than Cynthia Nixon that has the same or a better agenda and people who support her might vote for your fictional candidate instead. Cynthia Nixon herself might vote for that candidate.
    Nixon's celebrity circus has already run one serious possible candidate out of the race: Former state Sen. Terry Gipson http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/2018/03/gipson-ends-campaign-for-governor/

    It seems likely to derail Syracuse Mayor Stephanie Miner's as well.

    This is what you get when you practice freak show politics; stunts and neophytes are rewarded over actual qualified candidates.
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    22 Mar '18 09:03
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Nixon's celebrity circus has already run one serious possible candidate out of the race: Former state Sen. Terry Gipson http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/2018/03/gipson-ends-campaign-for-governor/

    It seems likely to derail Syracuse Mayor Stephanie Miner's as well.

    This is what you get when you practice freak show politics; stunts and neophytes are rewarded over actual qualified candidates.
    "freakshow" and "circus"

    yeah, nixon is horrible. with such agenda as "wealth inequality is obscene in ny, let's do something about it" or "hey, so, healthcare? maybe that should be a thing for all?"


    "stunts and neophytes are rewarded over actual qualified candidates"
    no. it's not a stunt to realize andrew cuomo has 30 freakin million dollars from corporate donors and will never do anything for the other 99%. that issues that you care about will never be adressed by him or others like him no matter how "qualified" they are.

    Cynthia Nixon did nothing to warrant these rabid attacks. She doesn't have scandals of sexism/racism/whateverism. Whenever she speaks she appears quite intelligent and more importantly, decent. You don't like her because you think that she takes away votes from the candidates you like? You don't like her because you think NY is such a fragile ecosystem that she will obliterate at the first document she signs? You don't like her because you like Cuomo?

    It is your right not to like her. It is your right not to vote for her. You even have the right to whine about your candidate missing votes because she "took" them from him. You also have the right to call her candidacy a freakshow and hope that maybe someone will agree with you after Trump showed you what freakshow really means.

    You should however take a chill pill and realize everyone has the right to run and everyone has the right to vote whoever they want or not vote at all. It's not bernie bros' fault that Clinton lost, it's her fault that she was incapable to win them over.
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    22 Mar '18 09:17
    Originally posted by @stevemcc
    I want to agree that it's past time where celebrity via the TV screen is sufficient qualification for high political office. To be fair, this is a losing argument and always has been.

    Still, it's not a simple matter to dethrone Cuomo who, in my opinion, is useless. New Yorkers have a terrible time admitting just how bad their state government is. Corrup ...[text shortened]... t keep him out of the White House conversation...

    Cynthia Nixon has nothing to recommend her.
    It's not a matter of qualification. It's a matter of seeing problems and feeling nobody currently in the race wants to fix them. As such, running for office is an excellent way to at least bring these problems further into light. If you happen to actually win and are not a moron like Trump you will realize where you are lacking in knowledge and you will learn, being careful what you change and surrounding yourself with capable people instead of sycophants.

    You said it yourself, Cuomo is horrible. How to oust him then? Should you wait for a mythical creature that is both "qualified" (what the hell does that even mean) and well intentioned and not in the pocket of rich donors? If you see a sick person being kicked repeatedly by a doctor and he is obviously not getting better, isn't that sick person better off in your care? Is pointing at the kicked person and shouting for a non-kicking-sick-people doctor to come save the day better ?

    "Cynthia Nixon has nothing to recommend her"
    Except an at least apparent willingness to change things for the better. That's better than a fictional creature that is "qualified" and benevolent. And much better than a "qualified" corporate stooge like Cuomo
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