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  1. 09 Feb '17 03:01
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/donald-trump-obnoxious-karma-reincarnated-as-himself-frankie-boyle

    "Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself"
    --Frankie Boyle

    "Equally, I don’t really understand commentators who say it’s vital not
    to normalise any of Trump’s actions. They have been normalised for
    eight years by Barack Obama while many of the same people looked
    the other way. Banks and corporations writing their own legislation;
    war by executive order; mass deportations; kill lists: it’s all now as
    normal and American as earthquakes caused by fracked gases being
    ignited by burning abortion clinics. Of course, there is a moral
    difference in whether such actions are performed by a Harvard-educated
    constitutional law professor or a gibbering moron, and the distinction
    goes in Trump’s favour. That’s not to say Trump won’t plumb profound
    new depths of awfulness, like the disbanding of the environmental
    protection agency set up by hippy, libtard snowflake Richard Nixon."

    "During the campaign, Trump said he wanted to stop America from
    making foreign military interventions, possibly because he realised he
    would need the army for suppressing the domestic population. Yet
    someone so media-obsessed can’t help but realise that among all the
    gaffes and flak, his insane aggression towards China and Iran has
    escaped censure. The media and political establishment largely
    approve. They only fret that he doesn’t take the same planet-threatening
    posture with Russia. War sells papers, television advertising and
    arms. It makes politicians feel important. It provides nationalism with
    clear enemies to define itself against. Despite all the other failures this
    administration promises, the US might finally be on time for a world war."

    "Morally, I think you have to look at what you can do to change your
    own country first, as that’s the bit you have most influence on. This is
    complicated in Britain as we have a government that has undergone
    what is known in the business world as “regulatory capture” by
    corporate and financial interests, and is, broadly speaking, a vassal
    state of the US. What can we do practically to influence our own
    government that would truly affect the Trump administration? Well, in
    a country supposedly filled with restored national pride, we could not
    renew Trident and refuse to be his missile base. That kind of strategic
    loss would damage him deeply. No amount of likes or memes or
    petitions can achieve this. Really, if we want to survive as a species,
    it’s time for organised civil disobedience."
  2. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    09 Feb '17 04:20
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/donald-trump-obnoxious-karma-reincarnated-as-himself-frankie-boyle

    "Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself"
    --Frankie Boyle

    "Equally, I don’t really understand commentators who say it’s vital not
    to normalise any of Trump’s actions. They have been norma ...[text shortened]... this. Really, if we want to survive as a species,
    it’s time for organised civil disobedience."
    "Libtard Nixon"??

    Really??
  3. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    09 Feb '17 08:53 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    "Libtard Nixon"??

    Really??
    I apologize for not reading this post correctly. I read it fast while I was at work, and I confess I got the meaning wrong. He's saying that this would be how Trump would characterize Nixon, for creating the Environmental Protection Agency via Executive Order in 1970.

    This is really an excellent post about an excellent article, and I agree with the sentiment behind this article. Again, I apologize for prematurely shooting from the hip, without sufficiently understanding what I was reading. I agree that it is well past time for some organized civil disobedience.
  4. 09 Feb '17 11:42
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    "Libtard Nixon"??

    Really??
    Sarcasm sweetie.
  5. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    09 Feb '17 12:21
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/donald-trump-obnoxious-karma-reincarnated-as-himself-frankie-boyle

    "Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself"
    --Frankie Boyle

    "Equally, I don’t really understand commentators who say it’s vital not
    to normalise any of Trump’s actions. They have been norma ...[text shortened]... this. Really, if we want to survive as a species,
    it’s time for organised civil disobedience."
    Normally I would agree with you, but thanks to your thoughtful, caring, and friendly attitude toward almost everyone here (myself included) I'd have to say you're 100% incorrect!
  6. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    09 Feb '17 18:54
    I can't believe Frankie said that without some added Anglo-Saxon!
  7. Standard member DeepThought
    Losing the Thread
    10 Feb '17 13:44
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/08/donald-trump-obnoxious-karma-reincarnated-as-himself-frankie-boyle

    "Donald Trump: a man so obnoxious that karma may see him reincarnated as himself"
    --Frankie Boyle

    "Equally, I don’t really understand commentators who say it’s vital not
    to normalise any of Trump’s actions. They have been norma ...[text shortened]... this. Really, if we want to survive as a species,
    it’s time for organised civil disobedience."
    I notice that he threw in the claim that Britain's nuclear deterrent is in some way auxiliary to the US Ohio fleet. The notion that by taking away the Royal Navy's toys the US would be hurt is just a little on the weak side. The US has around 7,000 warheads, 18 Ohio class boats, ICBMs and gravity bombs. Britain has 180 warheads and 4 Trafalgar class boats. It makes no difference to the strategic position of the US if Britain gives up the Bomb. It does, however make a difference to Britain's strategic position. Refusing to allow them to station quite so many troops here would affect the US strategically, but there's no particular need to give up Trident to do that. In fact it would make it harder for the British government to moderate what Trump does, on the assumption that that is what they intended. So, if he actually wants to influence the direction of the US administration not giving up all our trump cards would make more sense.
  8. 10 Feb '17 14:21 / 1 edit
    Indeed. The left believes in Karma but does not take into consideration that Trump may be their Karma.

    Hilarious.