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  1. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    13 Aug '17 12:12
    Whether ISIS or KKK it seems the only difference at present is the body count. In terms of the level of zealotry and the willingness to kill, the major difference seems the scale of operation and the degree of grievance.

    What would the tipping point be for white supremicists to start acting out like Islamic supremicists?
  2. 13 Aug '17 12:21
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    Whether ISIS or KKK it seems the only difference at present is the body count. In terms of the level of zealotry and the willingness to kill, the major difference seems the scale of operation and the degree of grievance.

    What would the tipping point be for white supremicists to start acting out like Islamic supremicists?
    Maybe if David Duke promises their followers that they will get 72 virgins for being martyred?

    Dunno, what say you?
  3. 13 Aug '17 12:45
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    Whether ISIS or KKK it seems the only difference at present is the body count. In terms of the level of zealotry and the willingness to kill, the major difference seems the scale of operation and the degree of grievance.

    What would the tipping point be for white supremicists to start acting out like Islamic supremicists?
    are you willing to claim that the violence was one sided?
  4. Subscriber vandervelde
    medieval punk rocker
    13 Aug '17 12:52
    They're spoiled and can't give up their afternoon tea, cucumber sandwiches and Premier League on Sky sport.
  5. 13 Aug '17 13:40
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    Whether ISIS or KKK it seems the only difference at present is the body count. In terms of the level of zealotry and the willingness to kill, the major difference seems the scale of operation and the degree of grievance.

    What would the tipping point be for white supremicists to start acting out like Islamic supremicists?
    they did act that way. we as a society made it clear that is not acceptable and those cowards started behaving. now, with the new orange in charge they feel emboldened once again, we need to remind them just what despicable trash they are and i see both republicans and democrats doing just that
  6. 13 Aug '17 13:44
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    Whether ISIS or KKK it seems the only difference at present is the body count. In terms of the level of zealotry and the willingness to kill, the major difference seems the scale of operation and the degree of grievance.

    What would the tipping point be for white supremicists to start acting out like Islamic supremicists?
    Why do you leave out the black panthers?
  7. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    13 Aug '17 14:20
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Why do you leave out the black panthers?
    I'm sorry if you feel they've been unrepresented of late. What they been doing lately anyways??
  8. 13 Aug '17 14:28
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    I'm sorry if you feel they've been unrepresented of late. What they been doing lately anyways??
    Voter intimidation during a presidential election. They wanted to do their part in getting a black man elected.
  9. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    13 Aug '17 16:24
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Why do you leave out the black panthers?
    The Panthers never tried to assert ethnic supremacy.
  10. 13 Aug '17 16:30
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    The Panthers never tried to assert ethnic supremacy.
    How about the guy here?

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,811191,00.html
  11. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    13 Aug '17 16:33
    Originally posted by @eladar
    How about the guy here?

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,811191,00.html
    Talk's cheap. The Panthers never took over their governments and police forces.
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    13 Aug '17 16:34 / 2 edits
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._C._Stephenson

    David Curtiss "Steve" Stephenson (August 21, 1891 – June 28, 1966) was an American politician who in 1923 was appointed Grand Dragon (state leader) of the branch of the Ku Klux Klan in Indiana and head of recruiting for seven other states. Later that year, he led those groups to independence from the national KKK organization. Amassing wealth and political power in Indiana politics, he was one of the most prominent national Klan leaders. "He was viewed as responsible for reviving the Klan and widening its base, and considered the most powerful man in Indiana".[1] He had close relationships with numerous Indiana politicians, especially Governor Edward L. Jackson...

    Encouraged by his success, in September 1923, Stephenson severed his ties with the existing national organization of the KKK, and formed a rival KKK made up of the chapters he led. That year Stephenson changed his affiliation from the Democratic to the Republican Party, which predominated in Indiana and much of the Midwest. He notably supported Republican Edward L. Jackson, rumored to be a Klan member, when Jackson ran (successfully) for governor in 1924. Stephenson was noted for having claimed, "I am the law in Indiana."


    Tell me about the Black Panther slave markets - since you're comparing them to ISIS and the Klan.
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    13 Aug '17 16:42 / 2 edits
    Almost a century later, and Maxine Waters is the closest thing to a Black Power politician we've yet seen. Nothing like the Klan.

    The Panthers never declared open war on their national government, like ISIS and the South did.
  14. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    13 Aug '17 16:59 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by @kmax87
    Whether ISIS or KKK it seems the only difference at present is the body count. In terms of the level of zealotry and the willingness to kill, the major difference seems the scale of operation and the degree of grievance.

    What would the tipping point be for white supremicists to start acting out like Islamic supremicists?
    Oliver Cromwell and the Confederacy were about as fanatic as Protestants get. Were those entities as bad as ISIS? I'm not sure.

    [youtube Horrible Histories Oliver Cromwell]qk3fGduIPVw[/quote]

    How about the Spanish and Mexican Inquisitions? Could Hispanics become that fanatic again?

    Also the Jews in British Palestine in the 45-48 period come to mind.
  15. 13 Aug '17 17:04
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    Almost a century later, and Maxine Waters is the closest thing to a Black Power politician we've yet seen. Nothing like the Klan.

    The Panthers never declared open war on their national government, like ISIS and the South did.
    The founding fathers did.