Facts about Hydrochoroquin:

Maybe you guys should also try snake oil and prayer healing.

@kazetnagorra said
Maybe you guys should also try snake oil and prayer healing.

https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1264871294799097857/photo/1

The WHO has stopped researching Hydrochoroquin (they really should give it another fukking name) as a possible treatment for Covid-19.

Any possible benefits are outweighed by the dangers.

@shavixmir said
The WHO has stopped researching Hydrochoroquin (they really should give it another fukking name) as a possible treatment for Covid-19.

Any possible benefits are outweighed by the dangers.

That’s what they think this week. If the RCT from UMN that is concluded and now being reviewed by the NEJM gives a different answer, it’s a whole new ballgame.

@sh76
From what I hear Malaria bacteria have evolved and now HC is less effective against it.

@sonhouse said
@sh76
From what I hear Malaria bacteria have evolved and now HC is less effective against it.

That I don't know anything about one way or the other.

The lineup going in right now is interesting. The WHO has come out against HCQ. Countries that were using is are going in different directions. Some examples:

Ignore WHO, keeping with HCQ:
Peru
Russia
Morocco
Indonesia (decision pending)
India
Algeria
Turkey
Costa Rica
Malaysia
Brazil
Guinea
Nigeria
UK (not treatment, per se, but "Recovery" trials of HCQ are pressing on)
UAE

Listening to WHO, stopping HCQ treatment:
France
Italy
Belgium
Mexico (partially)
Panama
Chile
Columbia

People are kind of flying blind right now. When the HCQ RCTs come out (and the Boulware study is now in the hands of the NEJM and he won't give away ice in the winter on what the results were), someone is going to have a lot of egg on his face.

@earl-of-trumps said
Yes, Tom. The dems, anyway.

The dems want more death and longer draconian lockdowns. *Anything* to enmiserate America. They call that a "strategy".

So naturally, the Nazis are all over this HXQ being bad bad bad. Don't want no sunshine in here!

Happy posting, bud.

As far as I've heard, the Nazis are saying it's good, good, good.

All because their Führer said so.

@sonhouse said
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/96000-patient-study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-increased-risk-of-death/90102945/

Bottom line, NO GOOD. 400% increase in cardiac arrhythmia and more.

Take this crap at your own risk.

Wow!

This study has now been retracted.

https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246

I ain't no scientist, but do published scientific papers often get retracted after 2 weeks?

@sh76 said
Wow!

This study has now been retracted.

https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246

I ain't no scientist, but do published scientific papers often get retracted after 2 weeks?

when liberals politicize them, yes.

The OP, somhouse must feel like a jackass about now...😂

@sh76 said
Wow!

This study has now been retracted.

https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246

I ain't no scientist, but do published scientific papers often get retracted after 2 weeks?

Read the lancet.

https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246

Either the co that did the work botched the consent agreement. Or worse and they’re pinning it on that. Either way it’s now in limbo.

@js357 said
Read the lancet.

https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140673620313246

Either the co that did the work botched the consent agreement. Or worse and they’re pinning it on that. Either way it’s now in limbo.

I have read it, and I've read lots and lots of analysis on it.

What happened is clear.

The underlying data source for the study, Surgisphere, was either incompetent or was flat out making up numbers. A lot of its data made no sense at all.

I don't think the authors of the study or the Lancet acted in bad faith per se, but in retrospect, it was certainly negligent of them to rely so heavily on such a shady and unproven company for its data.

I also doubt they would have published such a study if it didn't confirm their priors.

Here's a discussion by the person who facilitated the destruction of the study.

https://www.medicineuncensored.com/a-study-out-of-thin-air

@mott-the-hoople said
when liberals politicize them, yes.

The OP, somhouse must feel like a jackass about now...😂

It's not sonhouse's fault that Surgisphere was cooking its data.

It is, however, an abject lesson about putting too much stock on one publication.