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    24 Aug '18 16:58
    When the hacking incident was first reported it was a suspected Russian hack because that is all people think about with all the anti-Russian propaganda out there.
    Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians? Isn't the paranoia out of control in the USA?


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/08/23/michigan-democratic-misstep-dnc-hack-fears/1071924002/
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    24 Aug '18 17:04
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    Isn't the paranoia out of control in the USA?
    Self-awareness: 0
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    24 Aug '18 17:24
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Self-awareness: 0
    Don't you believe in a conspiracy theory about the Russians helping Trump steal the elections from the democrats in the USA?

    Look in the mirror.
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    24 Aug '18 17:40
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    When the hacking incident was first reported it was a suspected Russian hack because that is all people think about with all the anti-Russian propaganda out there.
    Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians? Isn't the paranoia out of control in the USA?


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/08/23/michigan-democratic-misstep-dnc-hack-fears/1071924002/
    How dare you question all knowing Progressives?

    They know who is conspiring and who is not, just ask Hillary about the vast right wing conspiracy. They need to no proof.

    In addition, they know who is a racist and who is not, so you better be good cause Mr. Progressive is com'in to town!

    Is it Christmas yet?
  5. Subscribersonhouse
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    24 Aug '18 18:012 edits
    Originally posted by @whodey
    How dare you question all knowing Progressives?

    They know who is conspiring and who is not, just ask Hillary about the vast right wing conspiracy. They need to no proof.

    In addition, they know who is a racist and who is not, so you better be good cause Mr. Progressive is com'in to town!

    Is it Christmas yet?
    Tell that to Microsoft, OBVIOUSLY part of the deep state since they have stopped now about a dozen hack jobs coming DIRECTLY from Russia. But of course that means nothing to you since you don't give a damn WHO keeps Trump in power as long as your lover stays in power. And you don't give a damn who gets hurt in the process.

    I LOVE the fact that Peckerhead is spilling the beans about Trump. It turns out Trump has personally picked all the anti Hillary BS articles for the past EIGHT YEARS. ALL OF THEM.
    And strangely enough, those kind of pieces in the National Enquirer has ceased since he became POTUS. Isn't that EVER so strange........

    I hope your bromance with Trump is a huge breakup when you finally, if ever, you figure out he is the assswipe we all know he is and we have known that since the Apprentice days. If he had not done the Apprentice deal he would never have gotten to be POTUS
    since he played that one up to get name recognition.

    My guess: If Trump, heaven forbid, he actually gets impeached, something I don't want, then we get 'Pray away the gay' POTUS in Pence, who would then be your NEW bromance.
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    24 Aug '18 18:351 edit
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    When the hacking incident was first reported it was a suspected Russian hack because that is all people think about with all the anti-Russian propaganda out there.
    Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians? Isn't the paranoia out of control in the USA?


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/08/23/michigan-democratic-misstep-dnc-hack-fears/1071924002/
    Lots of side stories come out of the woodwork.

    Let's keep the focus on the main issues.

    Was Donald legitimately elected to the White House ?

    Several events contributed to today's mess.

    James Comey reopening Clinton email investigation 11 days before election and closing it again a couple of days later.
    Some investigation !!

    Payout to 2 women weeks before election.
    Would Trump have lost election if these 2 women surfaced in news weeks before 2016 vote ?

    Russian meddling in elections all over Western democracies.
    They probably had their fingers in Brexit.
    Did they influence outcome of Brexit ?
    US 2016 ?
    They continue to mess around in Western democracies today.
    Doesn't that concern you ?

    Lots going on here.
    Too much crap going on around Trump.
    Do we really want to sweep this under the carpet.

    Because the economy is doing well.

    Nixon was doing a good job when he got impeached.
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    24 Aug '18 18:42
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    Lots of side stories come out of the woodwork.

    Let's keep the focus on the main issues.

    Was Donald legitimately elected to the White House ?

    Several events contributed to today's mess.

    James Comey reopening Clinton email investigation 11 days before election and closing it again a couple of days later.
    Some investigation !!

    Payout to 2 women ...[text shortened]... rpet.

    Because the economy is doing well.

    Nixon was doing a good job when he got impeached.
    "Too much crap going on around Trump.
    Do we really want to sweep this under the carpet."

    Only thing with this is...none of it has been proven to have affected the election.
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    24 Aug '18 19:07
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    Lots of side stories come out of the woodwork.

    Let's keep the focus on the main issues.

    Was Donald legitimately elected to the White House ?

    Several events contributed to today's mess.

    James Comey reopening Clinton email investigation 11 days before election and closing it again a couple of days later.
    Some investigation !!

    Payout to 2 women ...[text shortened]... rpet.

    Because the economy is doing well.

    Nixon was doing a good job when he got impeached.
    Dims learned their lesson with Reagan. You just can't allow prosperity to turn the nation against your party.
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    24 Aug '18 19:28
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    Lots of side stories come out of the woodwork.

    Let's keep the focus on the main issues.

    Was Donald legitimately elected to the White House ?

    Several events contributed to today's mess.

    James Comey reopening Clinton email investigation 11 days before election and closing it again a couple of days later.
    Some investigation !!

    Payout to 2 women ...[text shortened]... rpet.

    Because the economy is doing well.

    Nixon was doing a good job when he got impeached.
    You conveniently forgot another pre-election bomb dropped. The timing of this right before the elections is suspect. It made a lot of people go out of their way to vote for Trump because they thought it was diabolical and manipulative to sit on that info until it would have the most impact. A Bush being involved just looked more conspiratorial.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Access_Hollywood_tape

    You are also ignoring US election interference.

    https://www.npr.org/2016/12/22/506625913/database-tracks-history-of-u-s-meddling-in-foreign-elections
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    24 Aug '18 20:03
    I see the real "Dims" are out in force today cheerleading for their idol.
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    24 Aug '18 20:04
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    When the hacking incident was first reported it was a suspected Russian hack because that is all people think about with all the anti-Russian propaganda out there.
    Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians? Isn't the paranoia out of control in the USA?


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/08/23/michigan-democratic-misstep-dnc-hack-fears/1071924002/
    Meanwhile, back on planet earth, there is mountain of evidence that points to Russia as having interfered in the American election of 2016.
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    24 Aug '18 20:17
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    "Too much crap going on around Trump.
    Do we really want to sweep this under the carpet."

    Only thing with this is...none of it has been proven to have affected the election.
    Are you kidding? the proof is we now have a certified assswipe as POTUS. Have you perhaps noticed how many friends he has now? He is ready to put his own children under the bus much less Cohen. Manafort has been a nice pet, fully trained so he will get a pardon, unless he gets caught in a state courthouse where POTUS pardons don't work. And now his own CFO has turned states evidence following Peckerhead doing the same. Does it bother you that now we know Trump personally selected almost ALL of the anti-Hillary campaigns in the national enquirer starting in 2010? Doesn't bother you at all since you are totally brainwashed by all the boogie woogie Trump generated. He didn't NEED Russian meddling, he did it all by himself in great 18th century style.
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    24 Aug '18 21:57
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Meanwhile, back on planet earth, there is mountain of evidence that points to Russia as having interfered in the American election of 2016.
    Advertising RT is your nefarious election interference? How about an example of something that was actually effective at election interference? Can you give us one?
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    24 Aug '18 23:421 edit
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    When the hacking incident was first reported it was a suspected Russian hack because that is all people think about with all the anti-Russian propaganda out there.
    Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians? Isn't the paranoia out of control in the USA?


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/08/23/michigan-democratic-misstep-dnc-hack-fears/1071924002/
    "Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians?"
    --MetalBrain

    Blaming the Russians for this hacking seems like 'racially profiling' blacks for other crimes (sarcasm).

    1) If Russians are guilty of other hacking, it does not mean they are guilty of this one.
    2) If some blacks are guilty of other crimes, it does not mean these blacks are guilty of this one.
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    25 Aug '18 01:28
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    "Don't you think people should find out who did the hacking before implicating the Russians?"
    --MetalBrain

    Blaming the Russians for this hacking seems like 'racially profiling' blacks for other crimes (sarcasm).

    1) If Russians are guilty of other hacking, it does not mean they are guilty of this one.
    2) If some blacks are guilty of other crimes, it does not mean these blacks are guilty of this one.
    I'm not even saying Russia was guilty of hacking anything. I'm not ruling it out, but there is no evidence they hacked the DNC the first time. I am aware of the allegations, but no evidence came with it.
    People don't seem to understand that an indictment is not evidence. People are sometimes indicted and not convicted despite the best efforts of prosecutors.
    Then there is the fact that good hackers don't get caught and you can find a list online if anyone does a simple search. The assertion that Russian intelligence hires incompetent hackers is so unlikely I think it would be laughable if the propaganda was not such a serious issue.
    US corporate news media propaganda is using partisan bias to divide and conquer people and it is working.
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