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    09 Aug '18 17:14
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/04/trump-feinstein-spar-over-reports-chinese-spy-on-her-staff.html


    Recently, it had been discovered that Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy watching her for the last 20 years, who was her driver. The FBI let her know they were investigating the person after which she promptly fired them.

    Now compare that to Donald Trump and Carter Paige. Here you had a suspected Russian spy and the FBI did not tell Trump. Instead, they created a FSI warrant to investigate him and everyone around him in secret.

    That about sums is all up right there. And where is the investigation surrounding everyone in Diane Feinstein's life, including her lawyers? That's right, there is none.

    Now what about possible Chinese collusion that was never investigated by the FBI nor ever will be?


    Feinstein’s Ties To China Go Way Deeper Than An Alleged Office Spy

    A Short History of Dianne Feinstein’s Love for China
    For the last 40 years, no politician in America has arguably maintained a deeper, more longstanding and friendlier relationship with China, at the highest levels of its ruling Communist Party, than Feinstein. It dates back to the opening of U.S.-Chinese diplomatic relations in 1979.


    Shortly thereafter, Feinstein, then mayor of San Francisco, established a “sister city” relationship with Shanghai, one of the earliest and most robust such relationships in U.S.-China history. Soon after, Feinstein led a mayoral delegation to China joined by her husband, investor Richard Blum, a trip they took together many times over the ensuing years as the relationship between both Feinsteins and China grew.

    During the 1980s, as mayor of San Francisco, Feinstein developed a close friendship with Shanghai Mayor Jiang Zemin. This substantially enhanced Feinstein’s foreign policy profile, and created an important linkage to the U.S. government for China’s Communist Party (CCP).

    Just as Feinstein rose to a prominent position in foreign affairs and national security in the U.S. Senate, first on the Foreign Relations Committee and later as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Jiang rose to the top of Chinese leadership, serving as chairman of the Central Military Commission, general secretary of the CCP, and president of the People’s Republic of China (PRC). Under Jiang’s leadership, the PRC initiated a brutal crackdown against practitioners of Falun Gong, including mass imprisonments, beatings, torture, rape, organ harvesting, and murder, and engaging in alleged human rights atrocities against Tibetans. Feinstein never renounced her friendship with Jiang, in spite of these acts.

    Feinstein and Jiang reportedly visited each other regularly in the 1980s, with Jiang once spending Thanksgiving in San Francisco with Feinstein and her husband. Jiang supposedly danced with Feinstein during one such visit, which surely must have been a propaganda coup for the CCP a la Ted Kennedy and the Soviets.

    It Turned Out to Be a Lucrative Relationship......

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/08/sen-dianne-feinsteins-ties-china-go-way-deeper-alleged-office-spy/
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    09 Aug '18 17:15
    It's obvious to me that assessing the various trade deals with China, that favor China, politicians like Feinstein have sold America down the river.

    Now I guess we have a better understanding as to why.
  3. SubscriberKingDavid403
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    09 Aug '18 18:011 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    It's obvious to me that assessing the various trade deals with China, that favor China, politicians like Feinstein have sold America down the river.

    Now I guess we have a better understanding as to why.
    Get a life loser retard boy.
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    09 Aug '18 18:10
    Originally posted by @whodey
    It's obvious to me that assessing the various trade deals with China, that favor China, politicians like Feinstein have sold America down the river.

    Now I guess we have a better understanding as to why.
    Which trade deal with China in particular would you say favours China?
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    09 Aug '18 19:37
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/04/trump-feinstein-spar-over-reports-chinese-spy-on-her-staff.html


    Recently, it had been discovered that Diane Feinstein had a Chinese spy watching her for the last 20 years, who was her driver. The FBI let her know they were investigating the person after which she promptly fired them.

    Now compare that to Don ...[text shortened]... /thefederalist.com/2018/08/08/sen-dianne-feinsteins-ties-china-go-way-deeper-alleged-office-spy/
    Smells like... more desperate 'whataboutism'.
  6. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    09 Aug '18 19:53
    Shortly thereafter, Feinstein, then mayor of San Francisco, established
    a “sister city” relationship with Shanghai, one of the earliest and most
    robust such relationships in U.S.-China history.


    Anyone think this is a bad thing?
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    09 Aug '18 19:55
    US President Donald Trump's married to an immigrant from Slovenia (formerly in Yugoslavia).
    Has the FBI investigated him for any pro-Slovenian collusion?

    UK Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt's wife, Lucia Guo, is a Chinese immigrant.
    (He met her when she was working at a university in the UK.)
    Would some racists believes that should disqualify him from being UK Foreign Secretary?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-wife-chinese-japanese-foreign-secretary-china-beijing-a8469361.html

    "'That's a terrible mistake': Jeremy Hunt describes his Chinese wife as Japanese during diplomatic mission to Beijing"

    "Newly appointed foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt has admitted to a “terrible mistake” after
    describing his Chinese wife as Japanese during his first diplomatic mission to Beijing."

    ""My wife is Chinese and my children are half-Chinese and so we have Chinese
    grandparents who live in Xian and strong family connections in China,"
    --Jeremy Hunt
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    09 Aug '18 20:57
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    US President Donald Trump's married to an immigrant from Slovenia (formerly in Yugoslavia).
    Has the FBI investigated him for any pro-Slovenian collusion?

    UK Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt's wife, Lucia Guo, is a Chinese immigrant.
    (He met her when she was working at a university in the UK.)
    Would some racists believes that should disqualify him from ...[text shortened]... Chinese
    grandparents who live in Xian and strong family connections in China,"
    --Jeremy Hunt
    ummm...which of these were reporting regularly to the Chinese govt? You liberals just get plain stupid sometimes.
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    09 Aug '18 21:441 edit
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Which trade deal with China in particular would you say favours China?
    How about the tariffs on automobiles?

    China's 25% auto tariffs are highly protectionist when compared to the U.S. 2.5% auto tariffs. The U.S. was once the world's No. 1 producer and exporter of cars and trucks. Now the top spot is held by China, thanks in part to trade policies that protected China's automotive sector. Higher trade barriers to U.S. cars and trucks helped Chinese auto production increase to around 30% of total global auto production. Meanwhile, U.S. auto production shrank, even as the Detroit automakers moved some of their labor to lower-cost Mexico.

    US politicians did nothing about it.

    In general the trade deficit with China is too high.
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    09 Aug '18 23:08
    What has this to do with Trump's impeachment ?
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    09 Aug '18 23:491 edit
    This Feinstien? https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/17/sen-feinsteins-husbands-company-to-bag-1-billion-for-government-deal/ And I won't even get to congress immune from insider trader laws. YET. OK .https://represent.us/action/insider-trading/
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    10 Aug '18 06:36
    Originally posted by @whodey
    How about the tariffs on automobiles?

    China's 25% auto tariffs are highly protectionist when compared to the U.S. 2.5% auto tariffs. The U.S. was once the world's No. 1 producer and exporter of cars and trucks. Now the top spot is held by China, thanks in part to trade policies that protected China's automotive sector. Higher trade barriers to U.S. cars ...[text shortened]...

    US politicians did nothing about it.

    In general the trade deficit with China is too high.
    A tariff isn't a "trade deal." No U.S. politician had to do anything to make a "deal" in order for the Chinese government to implement tariffs, in fact the opposite is the case: tariffs can be imposed due to the absence of trade deals preventing them.

    It's not clear at all that tariffs benefit the society that implements them; usually the opposite is the case which is why most of them have been gradually lowered in recent decades - until you elected a senile celebrity with the economic know-how of a damp cloth that is.

    The U.S./China trade deficit is neither good nor bad. Primarily, that just reflects that U.S. consumers and producers are interested in the things that happen to be produced in China, and less so vice-versa.
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    10 Aug '18 06:39
    Originally posted by @kquinn909
    This Feinstien? https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/17/sen-feinsteins-husbands-company-to-bag-1-billion-for-government-deal/ And I won't even get to congress immune from insider trader laws. YET. OK .https://represent.us/action/insider-trading/
    A Congressperson isn't immune to prosecution relating to insider trading, in fact one of them got indicted for it like a week ago, although considering that Congressman's party I imagine you didn't hear about it on the Völkischer Breitbarter.
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    10 Aug '18 11:41
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    A tariff isn't a "trade deal." No U.S. politician had to do anything to make a "deal" in order for the Chinese government to implement tariffs, in fact the opposite is the case: tariffs can be imposed due to the absence of trade deals preventing them.

    It's not clear at all that tariffs benefit the society that implements them; usually the opposite i ...[text shortened]... ducers are interested in the things that happen to be produced in China, and less so vice-versa.
    "A tariff isn't a "trade deal.""
    [b] just how stupid are you? [/bv]
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    10 Aug '18 14:071 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    "A tariff isn't a "trade deal.""
    [b] just how stupid are you? [/bv]
    A deal is made between two parties.

    A tariff is imposed unilaterally.
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