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    09 Nov '18 18:40
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/victorias-secrets-first-filipino-model-hits-back-critics-accuse-passing-white-171411952.html

    Stories like this just fascinate the hell of me.

    So here we have a Filipino model, the first in the history of Victoria Secret, being proud of her race.

    However, Filipino's are none too happy, citing that she looks and acts too American.

    So what is she?
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    @whodey said
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/victorias-secrets-first-filipino-model-hits-back-critics-accuse-passing-white-171411952.html

    Stories like this just fascinate the hell of me.

    So here we have a Filipino model, the first in the history of Victoria Secret, being proud of her race.

    However, Filipino's are none too happy, citing that she looks and acts too American.

    So what is she?
    figger
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    09 Nov '18 18:471 edit
    @mott-the-hoople said
    figger
    It takes me back to Tiger Woods whom everyone identifies as black based upon what he looks like.

    Well this irritates the poo out of Tiger as he insists he is mostly Filipino and such.

    I just like sitting back eating a bag of popcorn as I watch this stuff.

    Very entertaining.

    I imagine Tiger upsets these same Filipino folk when he talks like this.
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    So what of Rachel Dolezal? Here we have someone who identifies as black, looks like she is black, but was discovered to have had no black genetics.

    Should society view her as black since she identifies as such, just like society is now expected to view transgenders?
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    09 Nov '18 22:28
    @whodey said
    So what of Rachel Dolezal? Here we have someone who identifies as black, looks like she is black, but was discovered to have had no black genetics.

    Should society view her as black since she identifies as such, just like society is now expected to view transgenders?
    What race do you identify as? Are you proud of it?
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    09 Nov '18 23:271 edit
    @kazetnagorra said
    What race do you identify as? Are you proud of it?
    I've never been genetically tested, nor have I had any real interest.

    How about you?
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    09 Nov '18 23:38
    @whodey said
    I've never been genetically tested, nor have I had any real interest.

    How about you?
    I don't identify as belonging to a specific race other than human, and there is no genetic test for race.

    Why do you continuously make posts about race when you lack "any real interest"?
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    09 Nov '18 23:41
    @whodey said
    I've never been genetically tested, nor have I had any real interest.

    How about you?
    Don't you have your Ahnenpass?

    How else can you verify your Aryan ancestry?
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    09 Nov '18 23:44
    @whodey said
    It takes me back to Tiger Woods whom everyone identifies as black based upon what he looks like.

    Well this irritates the poo out of Tiger as he insists he is mostly Filipino and such.

    I just like sitting back eating a bag of popcorn as I watch this stuff.

    Very entertaining.

    I imagine Tiger upsets these same Filipino folk when he talks like this.
    Maybe you should have some more popcorn.
    If that would keep you from typing idiotic posts, it would help.
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    09 Nov '18 23:46
    @whodey said
    I've never been genetically tested, nor have I had any real interest.

    How about you?
    Do trailer park people have their own genes ?

    By all means, get tested !! 😆
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    @whodey said
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/victorias-secrets-first-filipino-model-hits-back-critics-accuse-passing-white-171411952.html

    Stories like this just fascinate the hell of me.

    So here we have a Filipino model, the first in the history of Victoria Secret, being proud of her race.

    However, Filipino's are none too happy, citing that she looks and acts too American.

    So what is she?
    This is something that you also see extensively in the African-American community. There is the eternal divide between the "light skinned," the "red bones," etc., and the darker skinned, and there is never a shortage of internal dialog about when a black person, regardless of their skin color, takes on cultural characteristics that are deemed to be too white.

    Of course, I have zero permission to talk about this sort of thing, right, because it doesn't concern me.

    However, these corresponding cases in other communities are also interesting.

    I think some of it spawns from jealousy and some of it spawns from a legitimate concern that only light skinned and Americanized versions of their people get the attention that they believe that they believe that they merit from our press.
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    10 Nov '18 13:101 edit
    @philokalia said
    This is something that you also see extensively in the African-American community. There is the eternal divide between the "light skinned," the "red bones," etc., and the darker skinned, and there is never a shortage of internal dialog about when a black person, regardless of their skin color, takes on cultural characteristics that are deemed to be too white.

    Of course ...[text shortened]... f their people get the attention that they believe that they believe that they merit from our press.
    Race only matters when it comes to two kinds of situations. It matters when it comes to health care or to politics.

    In terms of health care, you have genetic predispositions that you may want to get screened for, such as sickle cell, etc.

    The only other time it becomes important is politics. For you see, politics is all about dividing and conquering. It really matters little how you decide to divide, just so that you do so. For you see, politics is all about choosing sides. You want one group of people on one side and the other group of people on the other side and fight to the death to get a leg up on the other group. Historically, race has been a simple and effective means to create such divisions. There is no prerequisite to doing such things as drawing a star of David on people to identify them as who they are, like the Nazis did the Jews, when the color of their skin often does this for you.

    Now in the US, you had the white skinned Europeans who were as a collective looking to invade America. This immigration invasion force had no real interest in integrating with the Native Americans who were already here. No, they came to conquer it. Skin color was the easiest method to create such division, as well as the drastically different culture. Their group of people were poised to conquer America due to the fact they had greater numbers and a greater military capability. However, there remained one small problem. How does one silence the inner voice that objects to mistreating your fellow human being who is yoru equal, so the darker skin colored people were targeted as being "savages". This helped dehumanize the American Indian which was key for a justification in oppressing them.

    The slaves were no different, as they were brought to America for cheap labor. Again, they were dehumanized and compared with a glorified ape, so men could be treated as animals. And what do we do with animals? We lock them in zoos for our entertainment, keep them as pets, use them as beasts of burden, or kill and eat them.

    Today though, the demographics are changing. White colored people are now having far fewer children than dark colored people, so now darker colored people are beginning to grow in power due to their sheer numbers, much like white colored people had far greater numbers than darker colored people when they came to America. So now whiter colored people are beginning to feel the brunt of political pressure of being a future oppressed minority. Now as we see in the news, if you are a white colored male, then you are now a terrorist, or if you are a dark colored person who supports them, you become a token negro. Again, these efforts help dehumanize the white colored people, must like Louis Farrakhan calling white people "white devils"

    Shrug. The human condition is vile and unredeemable in large part, as genocide is virtually always an adjunct. The American Indian is a shining example of this.

    Speaking of which, the unborn today are the odd man out in terms of dividing people for power and economic gain. Today, the unborn have no voice as the cost of raising children has become very expensive. As a result, people now turn to abortion to save money. In fact, most women have abortions due to financial concerns, much like slaves were chosen for financial concerns and the American Indian was targeted for power and financial gain. The trouble is, the unborn have no skin color, so they discriminate against them based on age of development. I believe the proper term is ageism.
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    10 Nov '18 17:48
    @kazetnagorra said
    I don't identify as belonging to a specific race other than human, and there is no genetic test for race.

    Why do you continuously make posts about race when you lack "any real interest"?
    So, you're not one of the lizard people. It's you and me against the aliens, man.
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    @suzianne said
    Don't you have your Ahnenpass?

    How else can you verify your Aryan ancestry?
    He doesn't need to, he has his party membership.
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    @whodey said
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/victorias-secrets-first-filipino-model-hits-back-critics-accuse-passing-white-171411952.html

    Stories like this just fascinate the hell of me.

    So here we have a Filipino model, the first in the history of Victoria Secret, being proud of her race.

    However, Filipino's are none too happy, citing that she looks and acts too American.

    So what is she?
    Stunning?
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