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    The Republican Manifesto:

    We want spending cuts.

    Actually we don't know what spending cuts are but we want the Democrats to want spending cuts. They can figure it out.

    Even though we know we were the ones who ran up the bar tab, and we were the ones who cut taxes at the same time, so the tripling of the deficit was our fault, we still want to dine-and-dash without tipping the waiter.

    We make the mess and ask others' to clean it up. Like pets.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/31/us/politics/republicans-spending-debt-ceiling.html
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    @wildgrass said
    The Republican Manifesto:

    We want spending cuts.

    Actually we don't know what spending cuts are but we want the Democrats to want spending cuts. They can figure it out.

    Even though we know we were the ones who ran up the bar tab, and we were the ones who cut taxes at the same time, so the tripling of the deficit was our fault, we still want to dine-and-dash without ...[text shortened]... Like pets.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/31/us/politics/republicans-spending-debt-ceiling.html
    Both the left and right have a playbook to acquire more power, casting blame on the other side grants both sides excuses and reasons to be elected. If something actually gets fixed, that means an excuse goes away. Making something less of an irritation is the best of both worlds for those who want perpetual power, something is still there to complain about, and it's always the other side's fault.
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    @wildgrass said
    The Republican Manifesto:

    We want spending cuts.

    Actually we don't know what spending cuts are but we want the Democrats to want spending cuts. They can figure it out.

    Even though we know we were the ones who ran up the bar tab, and we were the ones who cut taxes at the same time, so the tripling of the deficit was our fault, we still want to dine-and-dash without ...[text shortened]... Like pets.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/31/us/politics/republicans-spending-debt-ceiling.html
    Your 'we make the mess' comment...
    You should say, well, Biden has made a mess with his Border Crisis that the Repubs will try to clean UP
    But it is will be impossible to clean up. This is an example of how you government people (libs) will prevail in the end. And you will.
    I wonder why you fellers write about who spends what money. All presidents are faced with the signs of the time and spend what they think is needed.
    I direct you to google 'compare democrats and republicans'. The first factoid will say libs want big govt, etc, which means you spend money.
    Why do you want big government? Can you not take care of yourself ? I know Marauder is building a big safety net, you will prob qualify!
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Your 'we make the mess' comment...
    You should say, well, Biden has made a mess with his Border Crisis that the Repubs will try to clean UP
    But it is will be impossible to clean up. This is an example of how you government people (libs) will prevail in the end. And you will.
    I wonder why you fellers write about who spends what money. All presidents a ...[text shortened]... ou not take care of yourself ? I know Marauder is building a big safety net, you will prob qualify!
    There has been a need to tighten up and revise immigration policy for decades; Congress under several presidents has failed to address the issue. Building a wall on the southern border was merely a publicity stunt, and a pretty stupid one at that.
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    @moonbus said
    There has been a need to tighten up and revise immigration policy for decades; Congress under several presidents has failed to address the issue. Building a wall on the southern border was merely a publicity stunt, and a pretty stupid one at that.
    Don't know what you mean, to 'reverse' immigration policy

    Get real. Had the wall been completed, the cost of running it would theoretically be zero, except for manning a few gates if someone wants to come in.
    So we have exceeded (in Border Crises nightmare) many times over the amount of money that would have been spent for the wall......and this federal agency will never be able to stop spending the money.
    Unless,,,,,unless, we finish the Wall.
    You don't think the wall would be effective to stop a 6 foot person". I think it is 14 feet high. Why would the wall not be effective?
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    @moonbus said
    There has been a need to tighten up and revise immigration policy for decades; Congress under several presidents has failed to address the issue. Building a wall on the southern border was merely a publicity stunt, and a pretty stupid one at that.
    The issue today is not an immigration policy, it is an open door ship them around the country policy. Complete without checks and balances, while only stopping some from coming in and not being able to find most. Having a tight process for entering the country will not stop the sieve that is currently in place.
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    @moonbus said
    There has been a need to tighten up and revise immigration policy for decades; Congress under several presidents has failed to address the issue. Building a wall on the southern border was merely a publicity stunt, and a pretty stupid one at that.
    Nothing wrong with current immigration laws. The problem is dems not enforcing the laws we have.

    Modern day slavery…soon they will seek reparations.

    And the rich people are happy… plenty of cheap labor.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Don't know what you mean, to 'reverse' immigration policy

    Get real. Had the wall been completed, the cost of running it would theoretically be zero, except for manning a few gates if someone wants to come in.
    So we have exceeded (in Border Crises nightmare) many times over the amount of money that would have been spent for the wall......and this federal agency ...[text shortened]... fective to stop a 6 foot person". I think it is 14 feet high. Why would the wall not be effective?
    Except, eh, that the vast majority of immigrants come to the US via ports and airports… so the wall… yeah… whatever.
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    @wildgrass said
    The Republican Manifesto:

    We want spending cuts.

    Actually we don't know what spending cuts are but we want the Democrats to want spending cuts. They can figure it out.

    Even though we know we were the ones who ran up the bar tab, and we were the ones who cut taxes at the same time, so the tripling of the deficit was our fault, we still want to dine-and-dash without ...[text shortened]... Like pets.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/31/us/politics/republicans-spending-debt-ceiling.html
    Both parties ran up the bar tab
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Don't know what you mean, to 'reverse' immigration policy

    Get real. Had the wall been completed, the cost of running it would theoretically be zero, except for manning a few gates if someone wants to come in.
    So we have exceeded (in Border Crises nightmare) many times over the amount of money that would have been spent for the wall......and this federal agency ...[text shortened]... fective to stop a 6 foot person". I think it is 14 feet high. Why would the wall not be effective?
    Mexicans have acquired ladder technology.
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    @athousandyoung said
    Mexicans have acquired ladder technology.
    people in prisons have too…but it does them no good
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    @moonbus said
    There has been a need to tighten up and revise immigration policy for decades; Congress under several presidents has failed to address the issue. Building a wall on the southern border was merely a publicity stunt, and a pretty stupid one at that.
    The wall would have stopped an invasion. And the flow of aliens would be O V E R.
    Geez
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    @shavixmir said
    Except, eh, that the vast majority of immigrants come to the US via ports and airports… so the wall… yeah… whatever.
    Pollyanna lib…..it would not have been perfect, but a beautiful thing to behold. And my cousin Peaches would still be able to tend her guacamole garden, no one peeing on it. Your friends, those guys…
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    @athousandyoung said
    Mexicans have acquired ladder technology.
    Thousand suggests that American engineering would not have solved the ladder problem!!!!
    And you Fellers wonder why average Joe likes to hang around this forum. What a laugh.
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