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    17 Jan '18 16:14
    Just watch...these liberals here will find fault with this.


    https://nypost.com/2018/01/12/fiat-chrysler-to-move-plant-from-mexico-to-michigan-pay-out-bonuses/
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    17 Jan '18 17:14
    Well Mexico is trying to get their country back and then some.

    As for the US......meh.........
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    17 Jan '18 23:04
    http://www.businessinsider.com/r-game-of-chicken-gm-bets-on-mexican-made-pickup-trucks-2018-1

    Maybe my next car should be a GM. My Toyota is about ready to retire.
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    17 Jan '18 23:581 edit
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    http://www.businessinsider.com/r-game-of-chicken-gm-bets-on-mexican-made-pickup-trucks-2018-1

    Maybe my next car should be a GM. My Toyota is about ready to retire.
    "If U.S. President Donald Trump follows up on threats to dump the North American Free Trade Agreement, pickup trucks built at Silao and shipped to the United States could be hit with a 25 percent tariff, known in the auto industry as the "chicken tax.""

    There is your first glimpse of how Mexico will pay for the wall.
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    18 Jan '18 01:011 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    "If U.S. President Donald Trump follows up on threats to dump the North American Free Trade Agreement, pickup trucks built at Silao and shipped to the United States could be hit with a 25 percent tariff, known in the auto industry as the "chicken tax.""

    [b]There is your first glimpse of how Mexico will pay for the wall.
    [/b]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase

    Another prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon. After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe; the reply was

    "Neither".

    Losing patience, he sent the message:

    "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city".

    The Spartan ephors again replied with a single word:

    "If."

    Subsequently, neither Philip nor his son Alexander the Great attempted to capture the city.
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    18 Jan '18 01:04
    http://www.businessinsider.com/r-game-of-chicken-gm-bets-on-mexican-made-pickup-trucks-2018-1

    In the event of a NAFTA collapse carmakers could eventually switch out production of pickup trucks to the United States and bring compact car and sport utility vehicle production to Mexico, experts and industry officials said.

    "GM has certain flexibility ... to go back and only produce SUVs like the Suburban," said a Mexican official.
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    18 Jan '18 01:44
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    http://www.businessinsider.com/r-game-of-chicken-gm-bets-on-mexican-made-pickup-trucks-2018-1

    In the event of a NAFTA collapse carmakers could eventually switch out production of pickup trucks to the United States and bring compact car and sport utility vehicle production to Mexico, experts and industry officials said.

    "GM has certain f ...[text shortened]... ility ... to go back and only produce SUVs like the Suburban," said a Mexican official.
    producing them is one thing...selling them is where the tariff comes in
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    18 Jan '18 01:45
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase

    Another prominent example involves Philip II of Macedon. After invading southern Greece and receiving the submission of other key city-states, he turned his attention to Sparta and asked menacingly whether he should come as friend or foe; the reply was

    "Neither".

    Losing patience, he sent ...[text shortened]... sequently, neither Philip nor his son Alexander the Great attempted to capture the city.
    adults are cutting deals...don't bank on that which hasn't happened...yet
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    18 Jan '18 01:48
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    "If U.S. President Donald Trump follows up on threats to dump the North American Free Trade Agreement, pickup trucks built at Silao and shipped to the United States could be hit with a 25 percent tariff, known in the auto industry as the "chicken tax.""

    [b]There is your first glimpse of how Mexico will pay for the wall.
    [/b]
    Really? Are you that slow?

    How does buyers of GM vehicles paying more for them because of tariffs mean Mexico is paying for anything?

    As always, it's Americans paying for Trump's fantasies.
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    18 Jan '18 02:19
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Really? Are you that slow?

    How does buyers of GM vehicles paying more for them because of tariffs mean Mexico is paying for anything?

    As always, it's Americans paying for Trump's fantasies.
    Nope...GM must keep their prices comparable to market prices to compete. Surely you're not that slow.
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    18 Jan '18 02:45
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Nope...GM must keep their prices comparable to market prices to compete. Surely you're not that slow.
    The market price of cars will increase because of this. Take Econ 101
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    18 Jan '18 02:461 edit
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Nope...GM must keep their prices comparable to market prices to compete. Surely you're not that slow.
    So then GM, not Mexico, is paying for the Wall.

    EDIT: Actually it's more complicated and based on market conditions. GM might sell less cars, US consumers might pay more for GM and other cars, etc. etc. etc.

    It's hard to say how Mexico "pays" in any scenario.
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    18 Jan '18 02:472 edits
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Really? Are you that slow?

    How does buyers of GM vehicles paying more for them because of tariffs mean Mexico is paying for anything?

    As always, it's Americans paying for Trump's fantasies.
    The supply of vehicles will decrease and therefore prices will go up. You think GM’s competitors won’t raise their prices? They will because they have less competition. GM pays, everybody who buys a car in the US pays, the government and the other car companies profit.

    If.
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    18 Jan '18 02:59
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Nope...GM must keep their prices comparable to market prices to compete. Surely you're not that slow.
    Here learn something from The Capitalist:

    It would seem President Trump has a solution to his funding problem for the wall. Trump’s answer, as it seems to be with any country who doesn’t immediately agree with him, is to suggest a Mexico tariff. But that may not be such a good idea – especially with our neighbor to the south. And who really gets stuck paying for the wall if he does?

    Why Should Trump Hesitate to Put a Tariff on Mexican Imports?

    Donald Trump can’t just approach everything with the threat of a tariff. Especially as a source of funding. Mexico is a major trade partner for the U.S. In fact, Mexico is America’s third largest supplier of imported goods. Last year, that trade totalled to the U.S. importing $295 billion in goods from Mexico. Yes, a 20 percent tariff would generate an additional $59 billion for the country. The only problem there? That cost doesn’t go to Mexico, but gets passed onto the American consumer.

    Mexico’s major import categories include vehicles, electrical machinery, fuel, and medical instruments. On top of that, Mexico is our second largest supplier of agriculture, including fresh fruits and vegetables. A tariff could make a lot of these imports unaffordable to many Americans, leaving the country worse off than before, and still having to pay for its own wall.

    https://thecapitalist.com/trumps-mexico-tariff/
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    18 Jan '18 06:04
    All this over a trumped up concept like a wall.

    Moronity reigns supreme.
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