From: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@xxxxxxxxx
To: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@xxxxxxxxx
.xxx>, Tim Osborn <t.osborn@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Fwd: Re: GKSS results]
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:04:xxx xxxx xxxx
Cc: Caspar Ammann <ammann@xxxxxxxxx
I also figured this might be what you say, and I understand where you've
coming from. This represents a bit of a dillemma too, as it seems
unprofessional at best that Zorita and Von Storch have not made their
code public, when we of course have made ours public.
There are other sources where we could have gotten the GKSS data--I'm
checking w/ Caspar for confirmation. I know that the Cane group has it,
and I believe other groups have it nows too. So frankly, it is
effectively now 'public domain' whether VS and Zorita like it or not!
I propose, hoping that their is no loud objection, that we will include
a line in our response indicating that we have confirmed that we get
similar results using the GKSS Erik simulation. We'll leave it at that.
We don't need to show that result necessarily, unless the
editor/reviewers demand to see proof, and we certaintly don't have to
reveal where we got the GKSS data. As I mentioned, there are enough
groups out there that now have it, that VS and Zorita would not know the
source, and we would not reveal it.
We feel as if we cannot completely hide the fact that we have confirmed
our result w/ GKSS, hence the "compromise" suggested above. Meanwhile,
we can pursue a more thorough, official collaborative effort in the future.
Thoughts on this?
Michael E. Mann
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)